Sonny
Well-Known Member
I believe the following shuffle cannot be tracked:
two deck game
half deck grab
two passes
Not necessarily true. The devil is in the details.
-Sonny-
I believe the following shuffle cannot be tracked:
two deck game
half deck grab
two passes
Big dummies like me need all the help they can get. :laugh: But many of the smarter people might respond, "Ho hum!" Since every level of intelligence is represented here, there are no poor contributions, so don't be shy with your input; someone will benefit.Really?![]()
It would be interesting to know, not necessarily in public, whether these amazing feats were performed against the typical Vegas or AC shuffle, or against a weaker, more vulnerable one.At the recent BJ BASH a very skilled shuffle tracking team attended and gave lessons in what they do and I had the pleasure, as did many, of playing with them. I will say that this team puts straight counting to shame, simply amazing.
CP
It would be interesting to know, not necessarily in public, whether these amazing feats were performed against the typical Vegas or AC shuffle, or against a weaker, more vulnerable one.![]()
Not necessarily true. The devil is in the details.
-Sonny-
(1) Are you saying that CP said he himself was tracking? I didn't get that from his statement. What I am wondering is what kind of shuffle the expert ST team was up against and whether their success was against the more difficult shuffles typical of of LV and AC. It is possible, is it not? As Sonny says, "The devil's in the details." (2) Are you stating that "convoluted" best describes the shuffles usually done in AC and Vegas? Is it your opinion that shuffle tracking is largely a waste of time in those two major gambling meccas? I predict that KJ will partially answer this question in the next post. View attachment 6804I doubt CP would waste his time tracking at a joint with a convoluted shuffle.
The two deck is divided into four half-deck grabs. Two of the four groups are riffled and put together to reform the two deck. This process is repeated a second time.
From what I can tell, each grab is distributed throughout the entire shuffled deck at the end. That was why I said I believed it could not be tracked.
(1) Are you saying that CP said he himself was tracking? I didn't get that from his statement. What I am wondering is what kind of shuffle the expert ST team was up against and whether their success was against the more difficult shuffles typical of of LV and AC. It is possible, is it not? As Sonny says, "The devil's in the details." (2) Are you stating that "convoluted" best describes the shuffles usually done in AC and Vegas? Is it your opinion that shuffle tracking is largely a waste of time in those two major gambling meccas? I predict that KJ will partially answer this question in the next post. View attachment 6804:whip:
At the recent BJ BASH a very skilled shuffle tracking team attended and gave lessons in what they do and I had the pleasure, as did many, of playing with them. I will say that this team puts straight counting to shame, simply amazing.
CP
i predict that kj will partially answer this question in the next post.:whip:
Also, I hope no one here engages in conversation as to what type of shuffle we are speaking of in this instance, no good can come from it.
CP
You should get off strip and away from the big houses. You will be surprised at some of the local joint's shuffles.
Absolutely one hundred per cent agreed.To answer some questions, the tracking I do is not in the class of what this EXPERT team executes.
Also, I hope no one here engages in conversation as to what type of shuffle we are speaking of in this instance, no good can come from it.
CP