Tracking vs straight counting

[Sonny]

I believe the following shuffle cannot be tracked:

two deck game
half deck grab
two passes

Not necessarily true. The devil is in the details.

-Sonny-

 

[aslan]

Really?

Big dummies like me need all the help they can get. :laugh: But many of the smarter people might respond, "Ho hum!" Since every level of intelligence is represented here, there are no poor contributions, so don't be shy with your input; someone will benefit.

 

[aslan]

At the recent BJ BASH a very skilled shuffle tracking team attended and gave lessons in what they do and I had the pleasure, as did many, of playing with them. I will say that this team puts straight counting to shame, simply amazing.

CP

It would be interesting to know, not necessarily in public, whether these amazing feats were performed against the typical Vegas or AC shuffle, or against a weaker, more vulnerable one.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

It would be interesting to know, not necessarily in public, whether these amazing feats were performed against the typical Vegas or AC shuffle, or against a weaker, more vulnerable one.

I doubt CP would waste his time tracking at a joint with a convoluted shuffle.

 

[psyduck]

Not necessarily true. The devil is in the details.

-Sonny-

The two deck is divided into four half-deck grabs. Two of the four groups are riffled and put together to reform the two deck. This process is repeated a second time.

From what I can tell, each grab is distributed throughout the entire shuffled deck at the end. That was why I said I believed it could not be tracked.

 

[aslan]

I doubt CP would waste his time tracking at a joint with a convoluted shuffle.

(1) Are you saying that CP said he himself was tracking? I didn't get that from his statement. What I am wondering is what kind of shuffle the expert ST team was up against and whether their success was against the more difficult shuffles typical of of LV and AC. It is possible, is it not? As Sonny says, "The devil's in the details." (2) Are you stating that "convoluted" best describes the shuffles usually done in AC and Vegas? Is it your opinion that shuffle tracking is largely a waste of time in those two major gambling meccas? I predict that KJ will partially answer this question in the next post. View attachment 6804 :whip:

 

[kewljason]

The two deck is divided into four half-deck grabs. Two of the four groups are riffled and put together to reform the two deck. This process is repeated a second time.

From what I can tell, each grab is distributed throughout the entire shuffled deck at the end. That was why I said I believed it could not be tracked.

You should get off strip and away from the big houses. You will be surprised at some of the local joint's shuffles.

 

[creeping panther]

Aslan

(1) Are you saying that CP said he himself was tracking? I didn't get that from his statement. What I am wondering is what kind of shuffle the expert ST team was up against and whether their success was against the more difficult shuffles typical of of LV and AC. It is possible, is it not? As Sonny says, "The devil's in the details." (2) Are you stating that "convoluted" best describes the shuffles usually done in AC and Vegas? Is it your opinion that shuffle tracking is largely a waste of time in those two major gambling meccas? I predict that KJ will partially answer this question in the next post. View attachment 6804 :whip:

To answer some questions, the tracking I do is not in the class of what this EXPERT team executes.

Also, I hope no one here engages in conversation as to what type of shuffle we are speaking of in this instance, no good can come from it.

CP

 

[lol6deck]

At the recent BJ BASH a very skilled shuffle tracking team attended and gave lessons in what they do and I had the pleasure, as did many, of playing with them. I will say that this team puts straight counting to shame, simply amazing.

CP

Damn, im pretty suprised at the response this question got and thanks for all the responses
And as for the BJ BAsh how often do they occur and were and how would i get myself into one??

 

[Sucker]

i predict that kj will partially answer this question in the next post. :whip:

Are you psychic? Or did you past-post this statement? (Tell the truth now....)

 

[Sucker]

Also, I hope no one here engages in conversation as to what type of shuffle we are speaking of in this instance, no good can come from it.

CP

I cannot over-emphasize the importance of this statement

 

[psyduck]

You should get off strip and away from the big houses. You will be surprised at some of the local joint's shuffles.

KJ,

I have heard the strip of LV and downtown LV. To be honest, I don't even know if they refer to the same location in LV.

I was talking about my local casino's shuffle.

 

[aslan]

To answer some questions, the tracking I do is not in the class of what this EXPERT team executes.

Also, I hope no one here engages in conversation as to what type of shuffle we are speaking of in this instance, no good can come from it.

CP

Absolutely one hundred per cent agreed.