lucky ladies? (getting total of 20 pays 4:1)
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Mikeaber
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I didn't see that exact game listed, but you can get a lot of good information on many of the side bets at http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/bjapx8.html#royalmatch
zengrifter
Banned
HiLo TC of +6 would be better.
Mike! What does Royal Match have to do with LLs??
Here's a link for LL HiLo analysis -
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=1233&highlight=lucky+ladies
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zengrifter
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Originally Posted by XXX
Remember - try to bet as many others' LL spots as you can also! zg
Thanks for the help with the LL Zen, I thought I'd just let you know how it went. In the end I made about $500 on the game. I seemed to lose constantly at the start. This charity casino was open for 3 weeks then on the last night I killed the game. On one hand the count went to +20 (using KO) against six decks. I was throwing quarter chips at everyone not playing their LL. I won on four hands it was great the count was so high. Afterwards I looked up the edge at that count and I had a 23.18% advantage. Unfortunately I never hit anything above 9-1.
This charity casino was hilarious. Pen was 5.5/6, unfortunately the max bet was $25 which is usually my minimum bet. Wonged the whole time with another spotter. The place was filled with Asian ploppies and there was no heat whatsoever. I convinced a dealer to deal one more hand after the cut card came out. The shoes were clear see through plastic even in the front so when playing multiple hands we could control when the cut card would come out to get in an extra round and almost have the hole six decks delt out. It got to the point we would pass counts to each other across the casino by holding up our fingers with the count on it and verbally passing the count right at the tables. It was an interesting experience in my counting history. Anyways once again thanks for the help!
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Remember - try to bet as many others' LL spots as you can also! zg
Thanks for the help with the LL Zen, I thought I'd just let you know how it went. In the end I made about $500 on the game. I seemed to lose constantly at the start. This charity casino was open for 3 weeks then on the last night I killed the game. On one hand the count went to +20 (using KO) against six decks. I was throwing quarter chips at everyone not playing their LL. I won on four hands it was great the count was so high. Afterwards I looked up the edge at that count and I had a 23.18% advantage. Unfortunately I never hit anything above 9-1.
This charity casino was hilarious. Pen was 5.5/6, unfortunately the max bet was $25 which is usually my minimum bet. Wonged the whole time with another spotter. The place was filled with Asian ploppies and there was no heat whatsoever. I convinced a dealer to deal one more hand after the cut card came out. The shoes were clear see through plastic even in the front so when playing multiple hands we could control when the cut card would come out to get in an extra round and almost have the hole six decks delt out. It got to the point we would pass counts to each other across the casino by holding up our fingers with the count on it and verbally passing the count right at the tables. It was an interesting experience in my counting history. Anyways once again thanks for the help!
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OMendoza
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I have modified my LL strategy after seeing the thread on this forum in which Eliot Jacobson posted a couple of systems. I am playing with a QhSC and am doing some other things to address this side bet more effectively, like establishing removal effects of each type of card to set up a "Lucky Ladies Correlation," or "LLC," and noting how indices are influenced by the number of cards remaining (hint: computing a different index for each quarter deck increment is revealing). I am also investigating the possibility of treating the QhSC as an "indicator count," with the initial count being set to zero and the appearance of either Qh bumping it to one without the second Qh affecting it. This allows certain approaches to the LL bet that would otherwise be unwieldy and doesn't lose much in the way of accuracy (the first LL out of the two-deck shoe is the one that really decreases the return of the bet).
Anyone who wants to compare notes with me is welcome to do so. I am a bit rusty mathematically, but I seem to be recalling my probability and statistics coursework pretty well, and it helps with this sort of thing.
Anyone who wants to compare notes with me is welcome to do so. I am a bit rusty mathematically, but I seem to be recalling my probability and statistics coursework pretty well, and it helps with this sort of thing.
zengrifter
Banned
Welcome Syph! zg
Automatic Monkey
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Make sure you have the right information for the pay table there. There's a good pay table and a bad pay table. See if you can guess which one they deal in AC.
Mikeaber
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Just trying to get a link to the side bets URL. Didn't realize I had pointed to RM.
zengrifter
Banned
NO, wrong thread, sorry. zg
Thor
Member
Just got back from another stint at the local casino in Alberta, Canada. Second time in this place.
The side bet there is called Lucky Lucky. I didn't bother betting anything, after reading how most of these side bets are not a good deal.
I couldn't believe how often people ended up with somewhere between 18 and 21 when adding their two cards to the dealer's one. It seemed like half of the players were getting paid out on every hand. On about my fifth hand I was dealt two 7s to go with the dealer's 7. I missed out on a 50-1 payout!
I kind of got the gears from everyone else for not having any money on there. So the next hand I toss a $5 chip down, and get a 6-7 to go with the dealer's 8. A 6-7-8 unsuited paid 30-1, so my $5 bet ended up making me a nice little $150 stack!
I've never seen a game like this pay out so often. My actual blackjack hands weren't so hot, but the side bet wins helped me to almost hang on to the $150 win, and I left with $135 profit in my pocket for about 40 minutes of playing.
The side bet there is called Lucky Lucky. I didn't bother betting anything, after reading how most of these side bets are not a good deal.
I couldn't believe how often people ended up with somewhere between 18 and 21 when adding their two cards to the dealer's one. It seemed like half of the players were getting paid out on every hand. On about my fifth hand I was dealt two 7s to go with the dealer's 7. I missed out on a 50-1 payout!
I kind of got the gears from everyone else for not having any money on there. So the next hand I toss a $5 chip down, and get a 6-7 to go with the dealer's 8. A 6-7-8 unsuited paid 30-1, so my $5 bet ended up making me a nice little $150 stack!
I've never seen a game like this pay out so often. My actual blackjack hands weren't so hot, but the side bet wins helped me to almost hang on to the $150 win, and I left with $135 profit in my pocket for about 40 minutes of playing.
SystemsTrader
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Just got back from another stint at the local casino in Alberta, Canada. Second time in this place.
The side bet there is called Lucky Lucky. I didn't bother betting anything, after reading how most of these side bets are not a good deal.
I couldn't believe how often people ended up with somewhere between 18 and 21 when adding their two cards to the dealer's one. It seemed like half of the players were getting paid out on every hand. On about my fifth hand I was dealt two 7s to go with the dealer's 7. I missed out on a 50-1 payout!
I kind of got the gears from everyone else for not having any money on there. So the next hand I toss a $5 chip down, and get a 6-7 to go with the dealer's 8. A 6-7-8 unsuited paid 30-1, so my $5 bet ended up making me a nice little $150 stack!
I've never seen a game like this pay out so often. My actual blackjack hands weren't so hot, but the side bet wins helped me to almost hang on to the $150 win, and I left with $135 profit in my pocket for about 40 minutes of playing.
At first I thought you were confused with Lucky Ladies, I didn't know what you were talking about. I have never heard of the game Lucky Lucky before. So I looked it up, the house edge is only 2.66%. This is probably a very beatable game if you can create a strategy for it. How many decks were you playing against? Look at this site which breaks down the probabilities.
http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/appendix8.html#LuckyLucky
CountCardsandWin
Member
Just got back from another stint at the local casino in Alberta, Canada. Second time in this place.
The side bet there is called Lucky Lucky. I didn't bother betting anything, after reading how most of these side bets are not a good deal.
I couldn't believe how often people ended up with somewhere between 18 and 21 when adding their two cards to the dealer's one. It seemed like half of the players were getting paid out on every hand. On about my fifth hand I was dealt two 7s to go with the dealer's 7. I missed out on a 50-1 payout!
I kind of got the gears from everyone else for not having any money on there. So the next hand I toss a $5 chip down, and get a 6-7 to go with the dealer's 8. A 6-7-8 unsuited paid 30-1, so my $5 bet ended up making me a nice little $150 stack!
I've never seen a game like this pay out so often. My actual blackjack hands weren't so hot, but the side bet wins helped me to almost hang on to the $150 win, and I left with $135 profit in my pocket for about 40 minutes of playing.
Lucky Lucky is one of the FEW side bets WORTH PLAYING!
It is only available in Alberta, and it was invented at the jackpot casino in Red Deer. I saw someone had run the odds on it, and it actually worked out to a house advantage in the neighbourhood of blackjack itself, which is far fairer than any other side bet that I know of. Especially considering the multitude of combinations that will pay, as opposed to lucky ladies or the 777 or whatever.
I took probably in the area of 8-10k out of a small casino in medicine hat, and it was ALL from the lucky lucky side bets.
hehheh and something really funny happened, this kid steps up to the table, and hes watching me play and I'm putting quarters on the sidebet (max bet, most people play $1-5, I got alot of attention from both players and staff betting at that level on the side), and I'm hitting some good combinations, lots of 3:1 payoffs, some 15:1, couple 30:1, fairly frequently. So he wanders off, comes back with a handful of chips, and starts playing $10 blackjack, but $25 on the sidebet. Dealers looking at him like he's crazy (and most of the table too) hehheh and within about 5 hands, he hits suited 678, gets paid $1250.00. He immediately picks up his chips, and heads for the window, hehhe and tries to give me some chips for helping him out....I told him take his money and not come back to the Casino thinking he could do it again and lose it all back....he did get very lucky, he only came to the casino with $120.00
hehhheh oh yeah and here's the funniest part, his first hand, he gets 14 vs dealer 10. He says hes gonna stay, and of course the table groans and tells him hes gotta take a card cuz dealer has a 10 up, so he thinks for a second, then pushes more chips up and says "double" hehheh of course he busted and the table all laughs, well they weren't too happy watching him walk away with a handful of blacks after playing for only a few minutes, while they've been sitting there all night flatbetting and slowly losing buy in after buy in....
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CountCardsandWin
Member
Hey, that's my casino! :laugh:
I've sat there enough times watching winners pass me by (I usually don't do side bets) that now I pretty much always have some kind of chip down there.
Now if they'd just add a fourth (or more) BJ table to that damn place!
Are you referring to medicine hat or red deer? They are both pretty small casinos....I took a bit of a beating in red deer, but made up for it in med. hat., I got some pretty rude looks when I hit one streak of lucky luckys, I think in about 8 hands I had 3 suited 21s (15:1), a handful of 21s, and some of the 3:1....after the third time of the dealer calling 'pitboss suited 21', she just looked at me, and shook her head, knowing that I can't be somehow cheating, but not happy that I kept doing it. hehheh so to rub it in a little, I started going to the window every shuffle (since its 6 deck hand shuffle), if I had at least 1000 in black, and some green to keep playing. After the 8th time, the guy at the window starts giving me 20s, cuz I kept asking for large bills, and he's like "we don't have any, you took them all" which I knew was a complete lie, hehheh
Kaiser
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Medicine Hat. I've only been there less than 10 few times ever, but I can see where they'd be giving you a hard time. I swear the first time I was ever in there, I was backcounting a table and the pit boss was staring holes right through me. Mean looking SOB.
It wasn't like I could help it. They had 2 tables open, both of which were full, so I was backcounting for practice.
Of course here in Medicine Hat when I say the tables were full, that means there were a couple of open spots, but at least two people per table were so overweight that their thighs were splayed out at right angles to each other to accomodate the massive gut hanging out in front. Kind of hard to squeeze in next to these people.
The other thing I notice about this casino compared to Vegas, is how they shuffle the HELL out of the cards. Break the 6 decks into 12 piles, then shuffle the 6 pairs of piles into each other a good 10 times each, then shuffle the entire thing together a few times. Forget tracking a pack of cards through these decks. I've never seen cards shuffled so much.
It wasn't like I could help it. They had 2 tables open, both of which were full, so I was backcounting for practice.
Of course here in Medicine Hat when I say the tables were full, that means there were a couple of open spots, but at least two people per table were so overweight that their thighs were splayed out at right angles to each other to accomodate the massive gut hanging out in front. Kind of hard to squeeze in next to these people.
The other thing I notice about this casino compared to Vegas, is how they shuffle the HELL out of the cards. Break the 6 decks into 12 piles, then shuffle the 6 pairs of piles into each other a good 10 times each, then shuffle the entire thing together a few times. Forget tracking a pack of cards through these decks. I've never seen cards shuffled so much.
CountCardsandWin
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Yeah I had some short, fat guy wearing all black, and an accountants type visor hat, he came 'downstairs' at one point and literally stood right at my spot/(1st base, my fav.) . I just smiled and kept playing.
hehheh that gave me the perfect chance to cash in each shuffle, even if there was a lineup...