Interesting new Harrahs promotion

WRX

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#61
Blackjackomaha is correct. The terms set forth in the brochure that CET hands out clearly state that once you are registered, all you have to do is earn one base credit in a market for that to be added to the list of places you're recognized as having visited. Note that simply swiping a card at a kiosk is not sufficient. You have to earn one base credit, by one means or another. If CET didn't honor these terms, you'd certainly have grounds to pitch a bitch, to Nevada Gaming if necessary.
 
#62
WRX said:
Blackjackomaha is correct. The terms set forth in the brochure that CET hands out clearly state that once you are registered, all you have to do is earn one base credit in a market for that to be added to the list of places you're recognized as having visited. Note that simply swiping a card at a kiosk is not sufficient. You have to earn one base credit, by one means or another. If CET didn't honor these terms, you'd certainly have grounds to pitch a bitch, to Nevada Gaming if necessary.
You can get 1 base credit by playing $5 through a slot machine.
 
#64
alwayssplitaces said:
You can get 1 base credit by playing $5 through a slot machine.
Suppose for a minute I were to visit 6 different CET casinos carrying nothing but my TR card and a $5 bill. What strategy generates the most comp love for my $5? $5 through a $5 slot? Or $5 through a $0.25 machine (thereby possibly generating more than $5 in coin-in)? Or does it not matter?
 

ChefJJ

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#65
CrazyEddie said:
Suppose for a minute I were to visit 6 different CET casinos carrying nothing but my TR card and a $5 bill. What strategy generates the most comp love for my $5? $5 through a $5 slot? Or $5 through a $0.25 machine (thereby possibly generating more than $5 in coin-in)? Or does it not matter?
Well, if you're doing all 6 locations you are essentially getting $100 in comp dollars per location...essentially for a $5 run-through. That being said, popping your cash into a $5 machine, spinning, and going along your way is quick and easy.
 

flyingwind

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#66
CrazyEddie said:
Suppose for a minute I were to visit 6 different CET casinos carrying nothing but my TR card and a $5 bill. What strategy generates the most comp love for my $5? $5 through a $5 slot? Or $5 through a $0.25 machine (thereby possibly generating more than $5 in coin-in)? Or does it not matter?
I'll try to answer although some others, ie mach, may be more knowledgeable.

I think the main determination of slot comps in terms of reward points at CET is the coin in. So whether you play $5 thru a $5 or $0.25 machine doesn't matter, both are still only $5 total coin in.

To have your $5 go farther, it's prob better to play it thru the. 25 machine vs the $5 machine so you don't suffer variance.

That said, the hold on the lower denomination machines is higher than on high denomination machines. You need a large bankroll to survive the variance on the high denomination machines.

If you only have $5, maybe better to play the lower denomination machines. If you have much more, higher denomination machines.

As far as for this promo, it's positive EV either way, as some else already explained. It can also be extremely positive EV.
 
#67
flyingwind said:
I think the main determination of slot comps in terms of reward points at CET is the coin in. So whether you play $5 thru a $5 or $0.25 machine doesn't matter, both are still only $5 total coin in.
Wrong.

You earn reward points for every $5 played.

If you play a $5 slot machine and win $5 and play the $5 you just won and lose, you get credit for playing $10*****not $5.

It's the total amount of money that you played, not the amount of "coin in".
 

shadroch

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#68
Bill Cashman said:
Wrong.

You earn reward points for every $5 played.

If you play a $5 slot machine and win $5 and play the $5 you just won and lose, you get credit for playing $10*****not $5.

It's the total amount of money that you played, not the amount of "coin in".
If you put $5 in a $5 machine and spin it once and leave, you earn zero points. Your point is awarded the spin after you've cycled $5 thru.
On a 25 cent machine, it's you need risk $5.25 to get your point. On a $5 machine, you need to risk $10.
 

flyingwind

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#69
Bill Cashman said:
Wrong.

You earn reward points for every $5 played.

If you play a $5 slot machine and win $5 and play the $5 you just won and lose, you get credit for playing $10*****not $5.

It's the total amount of money that you played, not the amount of "coin in".
I don't think I'm wrong. The amount of coin-in includes the original amount that you put in, and any amount that you win and then rebet.

So if you put in $5, spin it, you get reward credits based on that $5. If you happen to win $5, and decide to rebet it instead of cashing out the $5 win, you will get reward credits for that next $5. (which is now reward credit for $10 total wagered. )

Next, know that slots and VP give different rewards.
For every $5 wagered in slots, you get 1 RC reward credit.
For every $10 wagered in slots, you get 1 RC reward credit.

shad: you aren't awarded the RC on the next spin. There is a substantial delay in RC awarded after the spin in both slots and VP. We simply play too fast and hit the spin button faster than the delayed. Try it, waiting after the exact number of spins. I know exactly how many spins on each machine I need to get a specific number of RC. After those spins, I wait, and after the delay, I always get exactly how many RC I was expecting. I never need to bet an extra spin. My only caveat is that this is based on my experience with the CETs I play at. I imagine it might vary at the properties that you play though I doubt it. Let me if your results vary from mine, even after you wait the delay.
 
#70
It's 5 bucks! No need to maximize the expectation of it, since you're going to lose it all. You want to maximize the comp points out of it. The best way is to bet 1 cent at a time till it's gone, but that's a huge waste of time.
Pick a low denomination and lose it all. If you win over $50 then lose just $5 from your maximum win.
 
#71
"I don't think I'm wrong. The amount of coin-in includes the original amount that you put in, and any amount that you win and then rebet"

That is not what you said in your original post.

flyingwind said:
I think the main determination of slot comps in terms of reward points at CET is the coin in.
It is the amount of coins played.
 
#72
IN THE SMALLEST FINE PRINT I'VE EVER SEEN HARRAH'S TELLS YOU YOU MUST EARN AT LEAST 1 POINT, IF I HAD KNOWN THIS I OBVIOUSLY WOULD'VE DONE THAT THIS HAS COST ME $600comp points (~$300) YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.
 

shadroch

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#73
PonyPrincess said:
IN THE SMALLEST FINE PRINT I'VE EVER SEEN HARRAH'S TELLS YOU YOU MUST EARN AT LEAST 1 POINT, IF I HAD KNOWN THIS I OBVIOUSLY WOULD'VE DONE THAT THIS HAS COST ME $600comp points (~$300) YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.
This needs a better explanation.What did you think you could do? Swipe your card and not play?
 

ChefJJ

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#74
I've gotta agree with Shadroch...the "earn 1 point" aspect is relatively clear, let alone beat to death here on this thread.

Regardless, sorry to hear about your near miss PonyPrincess.
 
#75
PonyPrincess said:
IN THE SMALLEST FINE PRINT I'VE EVER SEEN HARRAH'S TELLS YOU YOU MUST EARN AT LEAST 1 POINT, IF I HAD KNOWN THIS I OBVIOUSLY WOULD'VE DONE THAT THIS HAS COST ME $600comp points (~$300) YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.
Well, you DO have until Sep 30 at 11:59 pm.....:laugh:

In all seriousness, this thread has been up for a while (about since the promo started). The "must earn 1 base credit" requirement has been spelled out, ripped apart, and dissected. In every piece of literature from Caesar's, I've seen it clearly stated. I'm sorry you were unable to full take advantage of this promo.
 

Wookets

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#78
shadroch said:
What did you try, exactly? Walking in to the casino?
They have card swiping kiosks for this promotion (at least at my local shop), so she probably just swiped and walked out. I don't know if the kiosks mention the 1 point requirement; if they don't then they are pretty misleading.
 

NAP

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#79
Wookets said:
They have card swiping kiosks for this promotion (at least at my local shop), so she probably just swiped and walked out. I don't know if the kiosks mention the 1 point requirement; if they don't then they are pretty misleading.
Then what is the point of swiping at the promotion kiosk?
 

shadroch

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#80
NAP said:
Then what is the point of swiping at the promotion kiosk?
You have to swipe a kiosk to be entered into the contest. I believe you only need to swipe one kiosk in any casino and then you are entered for every casino you play in, but I swipe at every casino just in case I'm wrong.
How, or why anyone would think they would get $600 simply for walking into six casinos astounds me.
 
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