AC bans smoking!

[blackchipjim]

Lawsuit coming

Well you know it was bound to happen and it may. Big Don Trump wants a lawsuit against the ban as reported on the news. I don't think very much thought was put into the making of the law as usual. Public places where joe public goes and frequents I can understand but geeez give me a break. I tell the whiners and bitchers to go Canada to gamble if they don't like gambling in smokey enviroment. I think it's more unhealthy to handle chips and cards that Joe Dork handled after taking a leak and not washing his hands. blackchipjim

 

[propagandhi]

Once we allow the first link in a chain to be forged, we cannot return to what once was. We will eventually be bound by our action or inaction, for these become the chains that bind us all.

 

[moo321]

Once we allow the first link in a chain to be forged, we cannot return to what once was. We will eventually be bound by our action or inaction, for these become the chains that bind us all.

Thank you. I'm deeply moved.

 

[aslan]

I used to be a heavy smoker, so I can empathize with smokers. Now, I can't stand being around smoke. It screws up my sinuses, not to mention the cancer threat. Why can't the law stipulate that a restaurant, casino or other facility be allowed to have smoking rooms for up to fifty percent (or lesser percentage) of their business as long as they completely isolate the smoke in these rooms from other patrons of their business?

 

[bj bob]

I used to be a heavy smoker, so I can empathize with smokers. Now, I can't stand being around smoke. It screws up my sinuses, not to mention the cancer threat. Why can't the law stipulate that a restaurant, casino or other facility be allowed to have smoking rooms for up to fifty percent (or lesser percentage) of their business as long as they completely isolate the smoke in these rooms from other patrons of their business?

Better watch what you say in public, Aslan. That kind of common sense thought process will get you in trouble.:flame:

 

[blackchipjim]

Our worlds

Geeze oh man all this about smoking once again. I don't go to the whore house for a haircut and I don't go to the casino breathe fresh air. I don't go to the casino because the people there are really nice people. It is the type of place that attracts all sorts of people and alot with problems. If you were that concerned about isolation go to the high limit room and ask for a private non-smoking table they will be glad to accomodate you. I don't like drunken idiots who reek of booze and play like jerks. Guess what the place is full of them but, I'm not bitching about them. I'm just going to hold out for the next church vegas night and play blackjack there... blackhipjim:cry:

 

[iwantblackjack]

Amen, that's one of the points I was trying to make. BTW,doesn't Foxwood have their upper level casino as smoking and the lower one non? Now that makes perfect scents to me.

Yes, their lower level is nonsmoking; but it's only poker tables. The upper level (main floor for table games and slots) has a few areas for nonsmoking; but, no ventilation and a few footsteps away from tables are the smoking section. If i recall, they do have another casino on the 25th or 26th floor; but it's high limits and probably smoke for them. I know that Mohegan has nonsmoking table games enclosed within some architectural structure with strong venting system and a hint of fragrance in the air in their casino of sky. Who knows; the CT governor and state are trying to pursue non-smoking at foxwoods and mohegan; but, the tribes seem adamant that the state has no right to tell them...

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Yes, their lower level is nonsmoking; but it's only poker tables. The upper level (main floor for table games and slots) has a few areas for nonsmoking; but, no ventilation and a few footsteps away from tables are the smoking section. If i recall, they do have another casino on the 25th or 26th floor; but it's high limits and probably smoke for them. I know that Mohegan has nonsmoking table games enclosed within some architectural structure with strong venting system and a hint of fragrance in the air in their casino of sky. Who knows; the CT governor and state are trying to pursue non-smoking at foxwoods and mohegan; but, the tribes seem adamant that the state has no right to tell them...

Poker rooms in general are non-smoking, I'm not aware of any that allow it. But high limit areas are smoking.

Non-smoking areas are a joke at Foxwoods, it's worse than any Las Vegas casino, even worse than the Sands used to be in terms of patron comfort and cleanliness. Whatever you do, don't ever put your hand under a chair at Foxwoods, there is chewing gum stuck under every one! Mohegan is a little better, in all respects (except for penetration.)

One interesting thing I saw at Foxwoods is that no chewing tobacco is allowed and they are very serious about it. I saw a guy take chew once and a suit and a bunch of security were right on him. The dealer told me they are worried about people marking cards with it. Is this the normal rule in a casino, no chew? How about nasal snuff?

 

[sagefr0g]

malarkey

how atrocious. bunch of bible thumpin, book burning, holier than thou bastards. these are casino's for Christ sake. one of the last bastions of sin and deprovation we have left. :whip:
same sort of sh*t was pulled with the online casino's here in the good ole USA.
and look at the state we are in when it comes to the availablilty of casino's. it's piss poor. why? it's these mandy pandy pansey assed bunch of bible thumpin, book burning, holier than thou bastards and their ilk. makes me wanna puke. second hand smoke gonna give you health problems lol. total nonsense. second hand smoke isn't even a drop in the bucket when compared to the degree of the filthy poison spewed into the air, ground, water and even the food we eat just as a result of the normal activities of the human race. this nonsense is going to solve nothing. all it is, is these god dammed looney toon bastards with this let's stop smoking agenda. it's sick the way this crap has been insinuated into the hearts, minds and souls of innocent people who are fundamentally disinterested and unknowledgeable but gullable as hell. this is the same sort of nonsense being pushed by the idiots who are now wanting to ban the use of transfats in resterants. what's next? plenty you can bet. there are apparently enough people around that just would love to force you to live your life the way they see fit. and it's usually got something to do with getting in your pocket. take the health care insurance mess. did you know that the average working stiff in reality pays these bastards damned near as much as their take home pay is? outrageous! and now what the bastards are doing is putting together these wackey wellness programs where you'll be interrigated before being able to sign up for a 'decent' (that's a joke) rate of cost health care insurance. so now these bastards have managed to inflate doctors and hospital fee's into the astronomical costs to where anyone that doesn't have health care insurance is not gonna be able to even begin to pay the ruinous charges being bandied about. so but they are going to make you confess do you smoke before you can sign up for the insurance. then when you lie to them and get caught smoking out in the parking lot of you place of employment you know what's gonna happen. they fire you. so big deal you say smoking is bad for you, you shouldn't do it and shouldn't be able to have a job if you do or decent health care. come on. just wait a while if you don't smoke you are next on the hit parade. tiered insurance where the more exotic you disease the less likely it's gonna be you can afford to pay. but wait got a wieght problem. what do you think's gonna happen next. that's right some bastard is going to force you to either push back from the plate and get some exercise or just maybe you'll lose your health care insurance or maybe even your job.
lol i could go on and on and on. it's just pathetic when this kind of thing happens that's all. somma every one somma come and get your somma so you'll be happy and good. geesh.
here is the type of idiot that fosters this type of crap....
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[golfnut101]

second hand smoke gonna give you health problems lol. total nonsense.

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[aslan]

how atrocious. bunch of bible thumpin, book burning, holier than thou bastards....

Tell us what you really think. lol I guess I should also take up for one of the last bastions of sin and depravation. lol I hate certain pool rooms that are so heavy with smoke that you can't see across the room. They play havoc with my sinuses and my allergies do impact my pool game. On the other hand, smoke-filled rooms are synonymous with gambling and pool. If pool rooms did not attract some of the unsavory characters that they do, pool would lose a lot of its color. It's a games where you have the good guys and the bad guys, and sometimes the bad guys are really good guys and the good guys are whiny, arrogant, certified undesirables.

I'd be happy if casinos and poolrooms just maintained an environment somewhere between the extremes--somewhere between smoke-free, hospital-like environments and smoke-filled, filthy surroundings. Some casinos give me the heebie geebies (smoky and dirty) and others are very comfortable with some smoking tables and some smoke-free tables, and a decent level of cleanliness overall.

My Mom used to say, "Cleanliness is next to godliness." I have a sign in my bathroom that says, "Cleanliness is next to impossible." But the one thing she said that has always served me well was, "Everything in moderation."

 

[sagefr0g]

Tell us what you really think. lol I guess I should also take up for one of the last bastions of sin and depravation. lol I hate certain pool rooms that are so heavy with smoke that you can't see across the room. They play havoc with my sinuses and my allergies do impact my pool game. On the other hand, smoke-filled rooms are synonymous with gambling and pool. If pool rooms did not attract some of the unsavory characters that they do, pool would lose a lot of its color. It's a games where you have the good guys and the bad guys, and sometimes the bad guys are really good guys and the good guys are whiny, arrogant, certified undesirables.

I'd be happy if casinos and poolrooms just maintained an environment somewhere between the extremes--somewhere between smoke-free, hospital-like environments and smoke-filled, filthy surroundings. Some casinos give me the heebie geebies (smoky and dirty) and others are very comfortable with some smoking tables and some smoke-free tables, and a decent level of cleanliness overall.

My Mom used to say, "Cleanliness is next to godliness." I have a sign in my bathroom that says, "Cleanliness is next to impossible." But the one thing she said that has always served me well was, "Everything in moderation."

lol if i told it like how i really think i'd get thrown offa here for sure.
nice post. and guess what i like i think you do, read the Bible instead of thumpin it.
thing is i wonder if the mandy pandy pantywaist panzy's can't take the heat in the kitchen with the big boyz, what are they gonna do when they wanna play with the big boyz. cry some more probably.

 

[sagefr0g]

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hey golf lemme put it in proper context:

"second hand smoke gonna give you health problems lol. total nonsense. second hand smoke isn't even a drop in the bucket when compared to the degree of the filthy poison spewed into the air, ground, water and even the food we eat just as a result of the normal activities of the human race. this nonsense is going to solve nothing."

 

[Guynoire]

This sort of nanny state socialism really angers me. I'm not a big fan of smoking but when the government tells the owner that he can't smoke in his own property, particuarly a place that does not allow children or anyone that does not voluntarily enter, it really pisses me off. The government is meant to protect us, not to rule us. It's a casino, not a post office or courthouse or someplace you're required to go. This sort of law by it's design can only create problems. There's obviously some reason the owners want to allow smoking or they would have banned it long ago, so this sort of law will only force them into a policy they didn't want to do, often for a very good reason.

 

[moo321]

This sort of nanny state socialism really angers me. I'm not a big fan of smoking but when the government tells the owner that he can't smoke in his own property, particuarly a place that does not allow children or anyone that does not voluntarily enter, it really pisses me off. The government is meant to protect us, not to rule us. It's a casino, not a post office or courthouse or someplace you're required to go. This sort of law by it's design can only create problems. There's obviously some reason the owners want to allow smoking or they would have banned it long ago, so this sort of law will only force them into a policy they didn't want to do, often for a very good reason.

Still, you're failing to address the negative externality. Should I be allowed to have a 20 foot bonfire burning 24 hours a day in the middle of the city, so long as it is properly contained? What about keeping farm animals? Or shooting off fireworks at 3 in the morning? Or playing Billy Ray Cyrus on a massive sound system?

We obviously must balance personal freedoms with the rights of other people.

 

[aslan]

Still, you're failing to address the negative externality. Should I be allowed to have a 20 foot bonfire burning 24 hours a day in the middle of the city, so long as it is properly contained? What about keeping farm animals? Or shooting off fireworks at 3 in the morning? Or playing Billy Ray Cyrus on a massive sound system?

We obviously must balance personal freedoms with the rights of other people.

So, you agree? This is obviously a case of infringement on a person's right to smoke, is it not? It doesn't hurt anyone else, so long as it is not allowed to get completely out of hand. AC always had non-smoking tables for the non-smokers. The casinos I frequented there were sufficiently ventilated so you wouldn't get a significant amount of the vile stuff in your lungs. It was a good world for all concerned. So what went wrong? Is this a case of a few high and mighty elected officials lording it over a majority who could care less (about smoking, that is)? Throw the bums out!

 

[moo321]

So, you agree? This is obviously a case of infringement on a person's right to smoke, is it not? It doesn't hurt anyone else, so long as it is not allowed to get completely out of hand. AC always had non-smoking tables for the non-smokers. The casinos I frequented there were sufficiently ventilated so you wouldn't get a significant amount of the vile stuff in your lungs. It was a good world for all concerned. So what went wrong? Is this a case of a few high and mighty elected officials lording it over a majority who could care less (about smoking, that is)? Throw the bums out!

Yes, I agree it's an infringement on the rights of smokers. But, to me that is more than balanced by protecting the rights of non-smokers, who are far the majority. If there were some way to really ventilate the area, I suppose that would work too. But we can't expect public officials to come up with good ideas...

 

[bluewhale]

hey can someone tell me how the situation in AC is right now? i heard that many of the casinos have designated smoking places. and overall only about 25% of each casino allows smoking. one of my team members is asthmatic so this would be very helpful. basically can someone who needs to completely avoid any smoke plary in AC for 8hrs/day for 13 days.

 

[21forme]

Depends on the casino. Some have very good ventilation and enough separation between smoking and NS areas (eg., Borgata), however, you'll probably have to walk through smoking areas to get to the tables. Other casinos are poor. For example, Trump Plaza has no ventilation to speak of, and there can be a smoking table next to a non-smoking table.

 

[rukus]

hey can someone tell me how the situation in AC is right now? i heard that many of the casinos have designated smoking places. and overall only about 25% of each casino allows smoking. one of my team members is asthmatic so this would be very helpful. basically can someone who needs to completely avoid any smoke plary in AC for 8hrs/day for 13 days.

not if the member can't have any exposure to smoke. as mentioned aboce, out of all of the casinos there, id peg borgata as best at splitting up smoking/non smoking. you can zig zag through slot machines there to make your way to non-smoking areas. that said, the hand-shuffled pit at the borgata IS smoking, so if you use anything beyond counting (ie shuffle tracking), i dont think you will find a smoke free area in AC to do this (at least not with very good ventillation). someone please correct me if i've overlooked anything.