In my experiences, you will always be able to find $15 tables, at least at Bally's/WWW. Last time I was there on a weekend I was able to find some $10's interspersed as well (but this was a slow time, just before xmas). Ballys, Trop, and Showboat/HOB seem to have lower limits sometimes than the others (that or I just don't know where to look). Caesars has always been higher every time I've been in there. Last time I didn't see a table for less then $25.Automatic Monkey said:Borgata has a tradition of keeping exactly one table at $5 all the time. Players are lined up 3 deep, extremely slow action too.
Do not go to AC unprepared to play a $25 game. That is a bare minimum, $50 is more like it if you want to find a table with seats available on a weekend. Unless AC is very close to you or you are playing advanced techniques there, there is almost always a better option than going to AC.
Hey, how many monkeys are in this place anyway?Monkey!Boy said:As the others have said, $5 tables are pretty much unknown in AC. $10 tables are growing increasingly rare as well, even on weekdays. I've almost always found them weekdays at Harrah's, Resorts, the Taj, the Trop and at the Borgata during the afternoons. Watch out-- H17 is now legal in AC, and can be found at some Harrah's stores (WWW was all H17 last time I checked). Conditions are extremely crowded at almost all times. It's really not worth it to go down there for BJ alone unless you are playing $15 tables at the bare minimum.
The crack whores are still worth it, though.
Man does that bite the big one. Now I get to lose my money almost 50% faster.Monkey!Boy said:H17 is now legal in AC
Foxwoods is the best game of all of those, because of the late surrender, better-than-average pen, and no heat. Mohegan is 2nd: 6D is available, LS, but you have to look really hard for good pen.iwantblackjack said:...
AutomaticMonkey: Where would you suggest "better option" than going to AC by car? the foxwoods, mohegans, sececas, turningstones?
It was just added this past month. I'd rather play H17 with surrender than S17 without.shadroch said:I haven't seen any form of surrender in AC for several years,but I don't play the hi-roller rooms.
Why is that? Ok - just re-read it - I guess u mean if the latter was only available at $50 min and the former available at $10 thereby exchanging the higher EV for lower minimum bet.Automatic Monkey said:I'd rather play H17 with surrender than S17 without.
Not at all, a H17 game with surrender is better than a S17 game without for a card counter using a big spread.Kasi said:Why is that? Ok - just re-read it - I guess u mean if the latter was only available at $50 min and the former available at $10 thereby exchanging the higher EV for lower minimum bet.
Automatic Monkey said:Not at all, a H17 game with surrender is better than a S17 game without for a card counter using a big spread.
The reason is that with a neutral count LS isn't very valuable, but at a high count when you have a huge bet out, it is, because the chances of the dealer having his hand and of you drawing a bust card are higher. Conversely, the dealer needs a low card to get a soft 17 and when there are fewer low cards, the house advantage from H17 becomes lower.