I've been in blackjack for about a year and have been playing actively for about six months now and have been doing ok at the tables. However recently the trip, the play and the one man gig is starting to get a bit boring. I'm looking for people who either want to start a team, or already have one that I could potintially join. My bankroll isn't the greatestest but I've made $200 last for no less than 4 hours at a time, I obviously couldn't be a big player but I can spot no problem. So if anyone is interested, let me know and we'll go hit those tables.
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Let me get this straight. You log on for the first time today, and your first post is that you want to join a team? You have no credentials, nobody has heard of you and there are many other people on here who are probably more qualified. Somehow, I don't think you're going to be invited to join a team.
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I came from another site, blackjackapprenticeship.com my handle there is mrivera0407. I've posted a lot there in the past year. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the point of thse forums is to better yourself as a player? If you do well on your own wouldn't the logic thing to do be to join or create a team to maximize your profit? No, I'm not the best player and I have gotten some of my knowledge from this site and its not the only one. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has jumped from site to site to expand profit and improve play.
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I have no idea. Things like "making $200 last" are not what AP's like to hear. Betting $200 on one hand or winning or losing $1K on one hand is an everyday occurrence for an AC player. We are extremely aggressive.
I'm not criticizing your lack of bankroll. Just that you need to experience driving out of town both up and down $5K before you're ready for team play, which is relatively advanced and in many cases not beneficial. You can do this just fine on your own to start.
I'm not criticizing your lack of bankroll. Just that you need to experience driving out of town both up and down $5K before you're ready for team play, which is relatively advanced and in many cases not beneficial. You can do this just fine on your own to start.
on any given night I take $200 dollars to the casino cause I have absolutely no other means of income then my job. I can make it last that long but on bad nights it last no longer than 4 hours. I never leave going broke, never once have I let myself ruin, so the most I've ever lost per hour is$35 per hour. Unlike most players I've ever run into I don't have the means to play lose and just go to the atm and get more money. I've tried to re-invest my winnings, however I do have bills and a family to feed so paying for that goes before adding a bankroll. I completely agree with having to be agressive, but if you can't manage your money you won't last very long, or should I assume I'm wrong on that too? I hope I've answered some of your questions, oh and if anyone would like to give me $10K then I would be glad to be as aggresive as I should 
*that was sarcasm for those who can't tell*
*that was sarcasm for those who can't tell*
mRiv said:
on any given night I take $200 dollars to the casino cause I have absolutely no other means of income then my job. I can make it last that long but on bad nights it last no longer than 4 hours. I never leave going broke, never once have I let myself ruin, so the most I've ever lost per hour is$35 per hour. Unlike most players I've ever run into I don't have the means to play lose and just go to the atm and get more money. I've tried to re-invest my winnings, however I do have bills and a family to feed so paying for that goes before adding a bankroll. I completely agree with having to be agressive, but if you can't manage your money you won't last very long, or should I assume I'm wrong on that too? I hope I've answered some of your questions, oh and if anyone would like to give me $10K then I would be glad to be as aggresive as I should *that was sarcasm for those who can't tell*
*that was sarcasm for those who can't tell*
Think of this as just like showing up to your job. You might not make the same every day, but you have a general idea of what you are going to earn in a day at work, right? If all you have available is $200 you should not be anywhere near an Atlantic City casino. You need to have thousands available before you can even make minimum wage there, and you don't want to make minimum wage do you? If so, you are better off getting a janitor job then. Sorry but your bankroll is a tool you use to do a job and if you do not have the tool, you cannot do the job. Very disappointing for you to hear I am sure, but I would never lie to you, not about this.
mRiv said:
on any given night I take $200 dollars to the casino cause I have absolutely no other means of income then my job. I can make it last that long but on bad nights it last no longer than 4 hours. I never leave going broke, never once have I let myself ruin, so the most I've ever lost per hour is$35 per hour. Unlike most players I've ever run into I don't have the means to play lose and just go to the atm and get more money. I've tried to re-invest my winnings, however I do have bills and a family to feed so paying for that goes before adding a bankroll. I completely agree with having to be agressive, but if you can't manage your money you won't last very long, or should I assume I'm wrong on that too? I hope I've answered some of your questions, oh and if anyone would like to give me $10K then I would be glad to be as aggresive as I should *that was sarcasm for those who can't tell*
*that was sarcasm for those who can't tell*
* Disclaimer: Don't even think about it. I will take your money and you will not pass simple tests at this stage of your counting career. Even experienced players don't do very well when tested. Work, take care of your family, and build a bankroll for yourself as you can. Its not an easy business trying to get on teams, especially with no experience. It really doesn't happen unless you start your own. Good luck to you.
There are only 3 requirements for someone who wishes to join a blackjack team:
1) A reputation of honesty.
2) A reputation of integrity.
3) A reputation of being discreet.
It's an extremely rare person who possesses ALL of these traits,and if I thought you were one of them you would be working with one of my teams tomorrow. EVEN IF YOU KNEW NOTHING ABOUT BLACKJACK, believe it or not! I could find SOMETHING for you to do, while you're learning.
Blackjack skills would probably help somewhat, but nowhere near as much as you might think.
Please don't take this as any kind of an offer; or start to PM me - This is the internet; there's nothing you can do at this point to convince me.
As you can see, you're in a catch 22 situation. I would suggest that you place an ad in the newspaper, or maybe Craig's List. That's how I had to get started.
Sorry if I'm sounding cruel, but I'm just telling you how it is.
1) A reputation of honesty.
2) A reputation of integrity.
3) A reputation of being discreet.
It's an extremely rare person who possesses ALL of these traits,and if I thought you were one of them you would be working with one of my teams tomorrow. EVEN IF YOU KNEW NOTHING ABOUT BLACKJACK, believe it or not! I could find SOMETHING for you to do, while you're learning.
Blackjack skills would probably help somewhat, but nowhere near as much as you might think.
Please don't take this as any kind of an offer; or start to PM me - This is the internet; there's nothing you can do at this point to convince me.
As you can see, you're in a catch 22 situation. I would suggest that you place an ad in the newspaper, or maybe Craig's List. That's how I had to get started.
Sorry if I'm sounding cruel, but I'm just telling you how it is.
Sure, if you're looking for someone to exploit and not a coequal partner.
I wouldn't dare try a scam on an experienced AP, but some kid with $5K for a BR who just saw the "21" movie, that's the mark I'm looking for. I could probably even rationalize it to myself by saying he's just going to lose the money to the casinos anyway.
I wouldn't dare try a scam on an experienced AP, but some kid with $5K for a BR who just saw the "21" movie, that's the mark I'm looking for. I could probably even rationalize it to myself by saying he's just going to lose the money to the casinos anyway.
I would say that if someone answers your Craigslist ad, and he DOESN'T come over to your house and murder you & your family, you MIGHT find someone who's in a similar situation.
In MY case, I answered an ad in the Review-Journal for someone who was in the same situation as the OP, who was trying to put together a counting team. I got extremely lucky. Another person who answered the ad WAS a professional. He took me under his wing & taught me how to REALLY play blackjack. We STILL often team up together, 30 years later. Not everyone will be as lucky as I was, but this is why I'm trying to go easy on the OP; everyone had to start SOMEWHERE.
In MY case, I answered an ad in the Review-Journal for someone who was in the same situation as the OP, who was trying to put together a counting team. I got extremely lucky. Another person who answered the ad WAS a professional. He took me under his wing & taught me how to REALLY play blackjack. We STILL often team up together, 30 years later. Not everyone will be as lucky as I was, but this is why I'm trying to go easy on the OP; everyone had to start SOMEWHERE.
mRiv, I won't blast you or question your motives, but cut through the posturing from some of the best AP players in the world and their posts, and take their bottom line advice.
I've played with the counting advantage on and off for about ten years. Finding a compotent, honest, and qualified team mate is rare. Refer to Blackwoods book "Play Blackjack Like The Pros." I've seen teams get busted, at the tables, and it ain't pleasant, but they usually desintigrate long before they are ever 'discovered.' This is due to the usual dis-honesty, theft (of cash, wives, comps, etc) or just bad play issues. I have always played alone, and will continue to do so. The only person I am accountable to for my bad decisions is myself.
I just got back from AC, first time out in 5 years. Ecked out just over 5K with marathon sessions at the only house left in AC with decent rules, and the cheap seats. Drove to the boardwalk, and played much worse games, overbetting, while knowing the house was running an eval program on my play. Stupid, stipid, and dumb. Gave most of it back. I am very hard on myself, and this was an act of sheer stupidity on my part. At least I don't have to explain it (or lie about it) to a teammate who may have had an additional cash interest in my poor judgement.
This ain't an easy job. My suggestion for you is the same as I try to follow:
1. Keep an accurate count, use I18, and spread accordingly -- EVERY HAND, SHOE, TABLE, CASINO! Keep up the practise at home, it's free.
2. Keep to yourself while building a bankroll NO ONE ELSE has an interest in.
3. MOST IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!! Don't give in and OVER BET, or go on TILT! See a show, go to a nudey bar, take a snooze, do anything else if you need a break. Don't try to catch up, or blow through a nice "goal" on tilt.
*It's not the dealers fault and the cards don't care!
I've played with the counting advantage on and off for about ten years. Finding a compotent, honest, and qualified team mate is rare. Refer to Blackwoods book "Play Blackjack Like The Pros." I've seen teams get busted, at the tables, and it ain't pleasant, but they usually desintigrate long before they are ever 'discovered.' This is due to the usual dis-honesty, theft (of cash, wives, comps, etc) or just bad play issues. I have always played alone, and will continue to do so. The only person I am accountable to for my bad decisions is myself.
I just got back from AC, first time out in 5 years. Ecked out just over 5K with marathon sessions at the only house left in AC with decent rules, and the cheap seats. Drove to the boardwalk, and played much worse games, overbetting, while knowing the house was running an eval program on my play. Stupid, stipid, and dumb. Gave most of it back. I am very hard on myself, and this was an act of sheer stupidity on my part. At least I don't have to explain it (or lie about it) to a teammate who may have had an additional cash interest in my poor judgement.
This ain't an easy job. My suggestion for you is the same as I try to follow:
1. Keep an accurate count, use I18, and spread accordingly -- EVERY HAND, SHOE, TABLE, CASINO! Keep up the practise at home, it's free.
2. Keep to yourself while building a bankroll NO ONE ELSE has an interest in.
3. MOST IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!! Don't give in and OVER BET, or go on TILT! See a show, go to a nudey bar, take a snooze, do anything else if you need a break. Don't try to catch up, or blow through a nice "goal" on tilt.
*It's not the dealers fault and the cards don't care!
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