backcounting

[Bojack1]

if after the first hand its -6 rc, i would stay, unless you have tons of tables, to the point where there are always a few tables shuffling.. i dunno, i reread what you said, and it doesnt seem as exaggerated as i thot it was when i first read it.. the thing is, i also am slightly bias because i wong in/out/in/out, i dont backcount, and the casinos i go to only have a few bj tables, or a few 6 deck tables (21+3).. also, you said that 3 decks left (to be played, thus ~1.5 in the discard) was "late in the shoe", but does anybody on here think that if 33% of cards to be played (in front of the cut card) are in the discard tray that you are now "late" in the shoe? you still have 2/3 left! if your goal is like +3 tc, and your in the negative, then ya thats late in the shoe i guess, but my goal is +1 rc.. i guess its relative, and i slightly overreacted, but i still say that 3 decks left to be played is not late in the shoe, and that -6 rc within first 2 hands is not bad

I am a little confused by this post. Are you saying that you are not counting the cards behind the cut card as part of the decks remaining? If thats the case you are making some serious mistakes, especially if you are using a balanced counting system, which I believe you are as you talk about TC's. I don't mean to offend you but I would like to ask do you know the difference between a RC and a TC, and what do you do to find your TC? It might just be me not reading you right, so I may be off on my thinking here, but it seems you are not playing correctly.

 

[SilentBob420BMFJ]

I am a little confused by this post. Are you saying that you are not counting the cards behind the cut card as part of the decks remaining? If thats the case you are making some serious mistakes, especially if you are using a balanced counting system, which I believe you are as you talk about TC's. I don't mean to offend you but I would like to ask do you know the difference between a RC and a TC, and what do you do to find your TC? It might just be me not reading you right, so I may be off on my thinking here, but it seems you are not playing correctly.

no, im not saying that, but when it comes to "how much is left" AS FAR AS BACKCOUNTING/WONGING GOES, then why would you include the entire shoe? you are basically asking "how many hands do we have to go?", in which case you wouldnt include behind the cut card obviously.. thanks for saying it in a nice way, and yes, i absolutely know how to count cards, and there is nothing basic that i dont understand.. you divide the running count by decks left (in the entire shoe), by subtracting the amount of cards in the discard tray from total decks on the table, and i completely understand why it is done like that.. i dont just like to know how, i like to know why.. fyi, i have read 10-15 books on video poker, blackjack, and general gambling, so it would be impossible to not know rc, tc, etc