Bally's Promo

moo321

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#1
Bally's in AC is offering 7x points on Sundays in October. It doesn't apply to tier points (i.e. making platinum or diamond), and I don't think it applies to cashback (for whoever was planning to play 24 hours of video poker).

Just your total rewards points. You can use these for tobacco, which is sellable, if you're looking for a way to make cash off of this.
 
#3
Good eye for a promo Moo. That's a decent opportunity for someone looking to get their Diamond, because Bally's has full-pay progressive JoB VP, and the 7X makes it +EV outright. If the prog gets high enough it changes your strategy a bit too.

I wouldn't recommend the tobacco because it's probably illegal to resell it without a tax stamp and it is surely marked up so high that you'd be better off waiting for a cashback promo to cash them out. Remember those points are good at any HET property and there are a lot of them.
 
#4
Automatic Monkey said:
Good eye for a promo Moo. That's a decent opportunity for someone looking to get their Diamond, because Bally's has full-pay progressive JoB VP, and the 7X makes it +EV outright. If the prog gets high enough it changes your strategy a bit too.
It's 7x for REWARD credits---not TIER credits. It's TIER credits that get you Diamond status, not REWARD credits. You use REWARD credits to pay for food, rooms, merchandise, etc.

You don't spend TIER credits. 11,000 TIER credits get you Diamond status.

Let's hope they don't raise that 11,000 to something higher like they did a few years ago. It used to be 10,000.
 
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Bill Cashman said:
It's 7x for REWARD credits---not TIER credits. It's TIER credits that get you Diamond status, not REWARD credits. You use REWARD credits to pay for food, rooms, merchandise, etc.

You don't spend TIER credits. 11,000 TIER credits get you Diamond status.

Let's hope they don't raise that 11,000 to something higher like they did a few years ago. It used to be 10,000.
Right, but my point is you are not losing money if you are getting 7x reward credits.

On a dollar machine, that's $110K coin-in to get your Diamond. 22,000 hands. $506 in -EV. But you've also earned $770 in reward dollars which you can convert to $385 cash at any time or $770 cash on a 1:1 cashout promotion. If the prog is up there it's even better. Basically a free Diamond card, but you better hope you hit a royal in your 22,000 hands or it won't be exactly free!
 
#6
Automatic Monkey said:
Right, but my point is you are not losing money if you are getting 7x reward credits.

On a dollar machine, that's $110K coin-in to get your Diamond. 22,000 hands. $506 in -EV. But you've also earned $770 in reward dollars which you can convert to $385 cash at any time or $770 cash on a 1:1 cashout promotion. If the prog is up there it's even better. Basically a free Diamond card, but you better hope you hit a royal in your 22,000 hands or it won't be exactly free!
Where do they allow you to turn your Rewards into $$$$?

The only thing that I have seen lately is Rewards for slot play. Turn in Reward credits and receive 2 for 1 in slot play.

Those days of Reward credits for $$$$ are gone.
 

Dyepaintball12

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#7
Bill Cashman said:
Where do they allow you to turn your Rewards into $$$$?

The only thing that I have seen lately is Rewards for slot play. Turn in Reward credits and receive 2 for 1 in slot play.

Those days of Reward credits for $$$$ are gone.
Harrahs has Tier Points, Rewards Points, and then comp dollars.

You increase all of these at the same time by playing.

TIER SCORE - Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Seven Stars and as you move up they allow you to get discounts at gift shops and jump ahead in lines and use Diamond/7 Stars only lounges.

Reward Points - Start at 0 and continue on indefinitely until they expire, I think 6 months without use. For reference I believe 5,000 gets you $40 to a steakhouse and 450,000 points gets you 1 hour use on a Private Jet. You can also use these on-line to buy merchandise, gift cards, and probably rooms

Comp Dollars - You get these while playing and you can't check them on-line, only at kiosks at casinos. You use these for food, rooms, steakhouse comps, tobacco, whatever. Some of the nicer restaurants and tobacco may require 2:1 use of your points to buy.
 
#8
Bill Cashman said:
Where do they allow you to turn your Rewards into $$$$?

The only thing that I have seen lately is Rewards for slot play. Turn in Reward credits and receive 2 for 1 in slot play.

Those days of Reward credits for $$$$ are gone.
At the very least, you can get 2:1 on gift cards. That's a little better than slot play, but still, if you can run your free roll through a full pay VP machine or BJ machine it's no big deal. Some stores have occasional promotions where you can cash out at 1:1 but you have to time it right and you may have to travel.
 

21forme

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#9
I've gotten offers from Ballys AC and Showboat about once a year for converting comp dollars into cash. A few years ago, I was at Harrahs Council Bluffs and you can do it there any time. Have no idea if that's still the case.
 

pit15

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#10
Dyepaintball12 said:
Harrahs has Tier Points, Rewards Points, and then comp dollars.

You increase all of these at the same time by playing.

TIER SCORE - Gold, Platinum, Diamond, Seven Stars and as you move up they allow you to get discounts at gift shops and jump ahead in lines and use Diamond/7 Stars only lounges.

Reward Points - Start at 0 and continue on indefinitely until they expire, I think 6 months without use. For reference I believe 5,000 gets you $40 to a steakhouse and 450,000 points gets you 1 hour use on a Private Jet. You can also use these on-line to buy merchandise, gift cards, and probably rooms

Comp Dollars - You get these while playing and you can't check them on-line, only at kiosks at casinos. You use these for food, rooms, steakhouse comps, tobacco, whatever. Some of the nicer restaurants and tobacco may require 2:1 use of your points to buy.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 100 reward points = 1 comp dollar?

And I think you use up reward points when you use comp dollars.
 

shadroch

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pit15 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 100 reward points = 1 comp dollar?

And I think you use up reward points when you use comp dollars.

Thats how I understand it, but he might be addressing comp dollars earned on table games.
 
#12
pit15 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 100 reward points = 1 comp dollar?

And I think you use up reward points when you use comp dollars.
This is beginning to sound like "Who's on First".

Reward credits, Tier credits, Reward points, Comp Dollars!!!!!!

All I'm sure of is that I cashed in 400 reward credits to get this Sony notebook that I'm typing this message on.
 

shadroch

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#13
Bill Cashman said:
This is beginning to sound like "Who's on First".

Reward credits, Tier credits, Reward points, Comp Dollars!!!!!!

All I'm sure of is that I cashed in 400 reward credits to get this Sony notebook that I'm typing this message on.

I AM SURE YOU ARE MISTAKEN. 400 reward credits won't buy you a sandwich at any Harrahs dining establishment.
TR has a Sony Vario notebook for 67,000 points. Is that the one you got?
 
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pit15

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Well if harrah's goal was to make their reward credits thing confusing as hell, they sure accomplished that!

I think 1 comp dollar earned at a table game = 100 reward credits.

Honestly, I'm never 100% sure with them.
 
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shadroch said:
I AM SURE YOU ARE MISTAKEN. 400 reward credits won't buy you a sandwich at any Harrahs dining establishment.
TR has a Sony Vario notebook for 67,000 points. Is that the one you got?
The amount that I redeemed was 46,900 reward credits. That's the Equivalent of $469 comp dollars.

It is the Sony VAIO. It was one of the items that was on sale in the summer.
 

flyingwind

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#17
Bill Cashman said:
The amount that I redeemed was 46,900 reward credits. That's the Equivalent of $469 comp dollars.

It is the Sony VAIO. It was one of the items that was on sale in the summer.
There are laptops which are notebooks, and there are netbooks. Full function laptops/notebooks have built in CD/DVD drives, a variety of video outputs, and/or multiple data I/O plugs. They usually have faster CPUs and better video screens. Netbooks are much more basic. They usually are smaller, don't have built in drives, less video output options if any, and less data I/O - usually only have one or two USB slots. Netbooks usually have less powerful CPUs, video cards, and video screens. They're designed to provide basic operating system, word processing, and internet surfing capabilities. A few other programs or functions are just small bonuses. Around $500 is about right for the price of a netbook. Some netbooks sell for $250 or $300, and you'll see a lot of those deals on the Black Friday sale. (Ever stay up all night long after Thanksgiving dinner to wait in line at Best Buy to get the door buster deals?)

There are many different Sony VIAO desktop, laptop, and netbooks.

I'm going to guess that you have a netbook, and $469 comp dollars may be about right for the price. Look up the model of your netbook, maybe it only retails for $400.
 

shadroch

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#18
Bill Cashman said:
The amount that I redeemed was 46,900 reward credits. That's the Equivalent of $469 comp dollars.

It is the Sony VAIO. It was one of the items that was on sale in the summer.
In any event, it wasn't 400 Reward Credits, which is equal to $4.00 in comps.
 

shadroch

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#19
pit15 said:
Well if harrah's goal was to make their reward credits thing confusing as hell, they sure accomplished that!

I think 1 comp dollar earned at a table game = 100 reward credits.

Honestly, I'm never 100% sure with them.

Seriously? I think they have one of the most transparent programs out there. Put your card into almost any machine and it gives you your comp balance as of a very short while ago.
 

ChefJJ

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shadroch said:
Seriously? I think they have one of the most transparent programs out there. Put your card into almost any machine and it gives you your comp balance as of a very short while ago.
Agreed. And their online booking while logged into TR tells you everything you need to know about where, when and how much (if anything) the rooms will be at any Harrah's casino hotel.
 
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