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[cisco]

I've been reading Renzey's bluebook 2 and have got the half count down. I've practised it on this site and also on yahoo blackjack. It seems to work on this site but on yahoo I've played for hours and can never seem to get a good count, and when I do, it doesn't seem to help. If anything I seem to lose more. Does this have to with the way it shuffles? And what can I expect at a casino, and how much bankroll should I start with?

Thanks

 

[positiveEV]

Counting only guarantee that your total wins will be bigger than your total looses, it doesn't guarantee that you will win every sessions. The results you are experimenting are only due to short term variance, but after a significant number of trials, your results should be better and if they are not, then something is wrong with your skills. The Yahoo blackjack game is actually pretty good to practice on as it goes pretty fast and it have other players as opposed to most online simulators that only have you playing. Casino Verite is also a very good simulator as you can add more players, adjust the speed, etc.

 

[shadroch]

Isn't yahoo BJ dealt from a ContinousShuffleMachine,where your discards are put back in immediately?You can't count cards with a CSM

 

[cisco]

No. I was there again this morning and the count seems to be working better now. Let's I was at a $25 table, how muh bankroll would be good.

Thanks

 

[positiveEV]

Actually they have a multiplayer version where they have a cut card and shuffle only once they reached it.

 

[SystemsTrader]

No. I was there again this morning and the count seems to be working better now. Let's I was at a $25 table, how muh bankroll would be good.

Thanks

If you are just going to be doing play all then I would suggest a 40K bankroll. If you will just be backcounting only then you can use a 5 or 10k account.

 

[Kaiser]

I tried it there for a while today after reading this thread. They definitely deal you an entire shoe before the shuffle. I had a few great runs on a double deck game where the count skyrocketed.

Funny to read their Card Counting page in the Basic Strategy page. You find this at the bottom:

Please note: Yahoo! considers counting cards as cheating. The information has been included to help you identify card counters.

 

[person1125]

ok so you guys had me curious and I went to look at the yahoo BJ site. the page that the link Kaiser provided also has this on the page:

A more advanced counting system is to count each 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 that's as +1, and to count each 10 and ace as -1. Don't count 2s, 8s, or 9s.


what counting system is this? I have never seen it before.

 

[Sonny]

That's the Uston Advances Plus Minus count. It's decent but not as good as other similar systems like HiLo.

-Sonny-

 

[Kaiser]

BTW, you think you have ploppies at your local casino? Try Yahoo! blackjack for a while. People standing on anything over 12 regardless of the dealer's hand, for example. After a few minutes it got so stupid that I was standing on 8, doubling down on 18, splitting every pair no matter what, just to try and piss these guys off. I'm sure they didn't even notice.

 

[Thunder]

Yahoo's bj game is stupid to say the least. BJ's pay 2-1, you can double on 3 cards, you get paid bj's on split 10's with an ace on them and I could go on and on but I won't. :whip:

 

[Sonny]

Yahoo's bj game is stupid to say the least. BJ's pay 2-1, you can double on 3 cards, you get paid bj's on split 10's with an ace on them and I could go on and on but I won't. :whip:

What do you expect from a website that thinks card counting is illegal? Whoever wrote that software has probably never been to a casino in their life! They should have at least read a book though.

The funny thing is, those silly ploppies are probably still playing at a disadvantage! :laugh: God bless 'em. They're keeping the game alive.

-Sonny-

 

[positiveEV]

Yahoo's blackjack was updated!

You now get paid 3:2 on blackjacks, you can choose to have games from 1 to 6 decks, hit or stand on soft 17, you don't get any more blackjacks after you split tens or aces and I think you can't double 3 cards anymore.

You can also choose the limits and the speed of the game, and at the highest speed it's very challenging to keep the count while still playing and betting correctly.

The penetration was also changed to something around 80%, they don't deal all the cards anymore. I find it to be an awesome free place to practice. You still can't spread to multiple hands.