blackjackisgone
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So what is the point in mastering card counting?
Everytime I have lost money. Everytime. I repeat: Everytime I've followed basic strategy (regardless of how bad I wanted to hit or stand because the count was -15 or +15 or whatever - I did what I was told and lost.
None of the tables in Vegas, NONE of the tables in Vegas has one original Blackjack game that your grandfather enjoyed. Not one.
Even if they did, counting feels like I have to do 10 things at once.
1) Counting
2) Remember how many hands I won or lost (probability)
3) True count dividing
4) Kelly bet
5) PUT UP WITH OTHER PLAYERS TALKING TO ME
6) Put up with dealers speed (they refuse to slow down) just go go go go
7) Put up with the paraniod pit bosses breathing down my neck and watching me like a hawk if I dare raise my bet
8) Put on oscar worthy fake act to pretend I'm just a regular gambler
It's too much. I don't know how anyone does it.
I even went to this place called El Cortez. A few thousand in chips and 3 pit bosses are literally standing over my shoulder watching every play. Dealer change immiedately. Old dealer walks over to boss looking guy whispering and looking at me. New dealer sits down and immedaitely starts talking at me - and only me. As if to distract me from the game. It felt so uncomfortable I just got up and left.
This is just too much. I've already trained everything short of getting with a team and having those casino stimulations you saw on the movie "21".
Even when the count is high I've had dealers get blackjack after blackjack. There is just as much a chance of them getting 2 good cards as you. Honestly I have a very hard time believing anyone can actually do this and make money. Every time I see some course online the most obvious question: If this guy is a master counter why is he selling counting courses?
It just seems like BS. Honestly. Love the idea of it. But if it was true I would have at least made a return on ONE game at this point.
Instead I literally just sit down and lose money. Here is how it goes:
1) Sit down
2) Lose money
There are no ups and downs in the game. NONE. Cortez single deck was literally the only game where I went up and down. All the other Casinos, MGM, Luxor, Treasure Island, Orleans, Mandaly, Bellagio, Stratosphere, I just lost money. I got 1 game where I was up 2 units. Thats it.
I have a tendancy to quit when I go below a pre-set level (10 units). So I always have to quit.
If there was a light at the end of this tunnel I would stick with it. But I don't see any light here. It seems Casinos have gotten to the point where they just err on the side of caution if they see ANY bet varations.
How many legit full time card counters are there in 2017? 4 or 5? You're talking about scraping out a 1% return per hand, plus all the other business expenses, traveling to casinos, hotels, and paying all your bills - all from that 1% return. Hogwash. I don't buy it for a second. If the casinos had original blackjack, the kind your grandfather played, and you had a MIT team - MAYBE.
But with these new rules you cannot make any money. I invested all this time and study and moved to Vegas - FOR NOTHING.
That's all I have to say. End of rant.
Everytime I have lost money. Everytime. I repeat: Everytime I've followed basic strategy (regardless of how bad I wanted to hit or stand because the count was -15 or +15 or whatever - I did what I was told and lost.
None of the tables in Vegas, NONE of the tables in Vegas has one original Blackjack game that your grandfather enjoyed. Not one.
Even if they did, counting feels like I have to do 10 things at once.
1) Counting
2) Remember how many hands I won or lost (probability)
3) True count dividing
4) Kelly bet
5) PUT UP WITH OTHER PLAYERS TALKING TO ME
6) Put up with dealers speed (they refuse to slow down) just go go go go
7) Put up with the paraniod pit bosses breathing down my neck and watching me like a hawk if I dare raise my bet
8) Put on oscar worthy fake act to pretend I'm just a regular gambler
It's too much. I don't know how anyone does it.
I even went to this place called El Cortez. A few thousand in chips and 3 pit bosses are literally standing over my shoulder watching every play. Dealer change immiedately. Old dealer walks over to boss looking guy whispering and looking at me. New dealer sits down and immedaitely starts talking at me - and only me. As if to distract me from the game. It felt so uncomfortable I just got up and left.
This is just too much. I've already trained everything short of getting with a team and having those casino stimulations you saw on the movie "21".
Even when the count is high I've had dealers get blackjack after blackjack. There is just as much a chance of them getting 2 good cards as you. Honestly I have a very hard time believing anyone can actually do this and make money. Every time I see some course online the most obvious question: If this guy is a master counter why is he selling counting courses?
It just seems like BS. Honestly. Love the idea of it. But if it was true I would have at least made a return on ONE game at this point.
Instead I literally just sit down and lose money. Here is how it goes:
1) Sit down
2) Lose money
There are no ups and downs in the game. NONE. Cortez single deck was literally the only game where I went up and down. All the other Casinos, MGM, Luxor, Treasure Island, Orleans, Mandaly, Bellagio, Stratosphere, I just lost money. I got 1 game where I was up 2 units. Thats it.
I have a tendancy to quit when I go below a pre-set level (10 units). So I always have to quit.
If there was a light at the end of this tunnel I would stick with it. But I don't see any light here. It seems Casinos have gotten to the point where they just err on the side of caution if they see ANY bet varations.
How many legit full time card counters are there in 2017? 4 or 5? You're talking about scraping out a 1% return per hand, plus all the other business expenses, traveling to casinos, hotels, and paying all your bills - all from that 1% return. Hogwash. I don't buy it for a second. If the casinos had original blackjack, the kind your grandfather played, and you had a MIT team - MAYBE.
But with these new rules you cannot make any money. I invested all this time and study and moved to Vegas - FOR NOTHING.
That's all I have to say. End of rant.