jetblack3s
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is it worthy? instead of throwing tons of money to the casino, might as well learn from the best in the beginner right? they usually go from 1-5k tho... ouch
blackjack lesson from the pro?
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standard toaster
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All you need to know is on this site.
But if you insist ill teach you for 200:joker:
But if you insist ill teach you for 200:joker:
ihate17
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Not worth it but a question also
There are some excellent AP's who charge for lessons but there are probably 10 times as many crooks with false credentials giving lessons and selling fool (the word fool is there for a reason) proof systems.
Finally, learning something and then being able to apply it when things are just not going according to the text in the casino is something that no one can really teach you.
ihate17
In today's world of scams and in the historical world of gambling scams, you should be asked for the name of the "best."jetblack3s said:
There are some excellent AP's who charge for lessons but there are probably 10 times as many crooks with false credentials giving lessons and selling fool (the word fool is there for a reason) proof systems.
Finally, learning something and then being able to apply it when things are just not going according to the text in the casino is something that no one can really teach you.
ihate17
callipygian
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Let me echo that. You're better off spending $50 on books and $50 on some practice software. And then donating $500 to this site for ihate17's valuable advice.ihate17 said:
Mimosine
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i've been contemplating this actually.... What if I had had someone who 'brought me up.' What if someone actually sat me down to practice and told me to read on my own and then went with me on my first few trips to help analyze play and situations and dealer mistakes and heat and emotions?ihate17 said:
I think that would have been an amazing experience - though not one worth paying for. Instead we always come here for after game analysis which has always been quite priceless....
This was a hot topic a while back and I don't want to stir the pot but, there are 2 sides to this. Let me start by saying you can learn anything you want about counting cards pretty cheap through books and the internet. It seems that would be the method for most that learn. But ihate17 says someting here that one should take note of. Learning from a text will give you the info you need, applying it is something different. I disagree that applying it can't be taught. There are a couple of things that can be learned in the way of practical application. First is, do you have what it takes to pull it off, if yes, than the act of doing it. There are some who will never be comfortable in a casino, regardless how smart they are and how well they know their system. There are others who have natural charisma, but with minds that need coaxing into high effeciency. You can make a great player out of quite a few different kinds of people. It is hard to become a great player on your own. Its not impossible, but just like anything, its easier to push when you have another pushing you. There is a lot more to being a great AP then just counting a few cards. There is gauranteed money out there for the highest level AP's. That does not come from a book. Pro's train pros. At least the higher end ones. If you want to play for recreation don't spend big money on some lessons. It won't be worth it. All you need can be found right here and in just a few books. And be wary of those claiming to be professionals, there are very few out worth more than the cost of a good book. The bottomline is you can learn this stuff cheap and still play a pretty good game. Or at least you may think so. Paying for lessons can be beneficial only in rare cases of people who have the money, possible loftier expectations, and can find a reputable source of teaching.ihate17 said:
jetblack3s
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thank you!!
zengrifter
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Start here, Grasshopper - Zengrifter Teaches "TRUTH"jetblack3s said:
Tarzan
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Buy a few books, study
If you are "The OJ", you can buy your way out of most situations. If you are a Senator from Massachusetts you can drive drunk and get away with it even if you drive off a bridge and your passenger bites the dust. If you have enough cash, you can be a complete idiot and still pay more than most and score that master's degree you wanted. If your uncle Lester happens to be a high ranking political figure, you can score a high paying job that you have absolutely no qualifications for... the list goes on and on but in the world of blackjack it's a level playing field and the person that buys a few books, studies hard, examines all data that they can get their hands on and only spent a few dollars can easily do as well or better than someone less devoted that spent $5000 for very specific and exclusive instruction and training.
You can buy someone's course or instruction and still fail miserably. You can find out you have no aptitude, patience or learned applicable skills having spent a lot of money to figure that out the hard way. "But wait a minute here... if I spend a fat buck for a whiz bang course I am guaranteed success, right?" WRONG!
Maybe I am wrong though--You don't know, I don't know. So if you wish to throw some money out there to see if this brings you wisdom and ability the easy way with less study or effort, I suggest you start with Zengrifter's seminar on "Conventional Truth and Ultimate Truth". There are many paths to go from there and many valuable learning experiences after that, so many different tangents of purchased wisdom that are truly guaranteed to increase your perception of the world around you.
If you are "The OJ", you can buy your way out of most situations. If you are a Senator from Massachusetts you can drive drunk and get away with it even if you drive off a bridge and your passenger bites the dust. If you have enough cash, you can be a complete idiot and still pay more than most and score that master's degree you wanted. If your uncle Lester happens to be a high ranking political figure, you can score a high paying job that you have absolutely no qualifications for... the list goes on and on but in the world of blackjack it's a level playing field and the person that buys a few books, studies hard, examines all data that they can get their hands on and only spent a few dollars can easily do as well or better than someone less devoted that spent $5000 for very specific and exclusive instruction and training.
You can buy someone's course or instruction and still fail miserably. You can find out you have no aptitude, patience or learned applicable skills having spent a lot of money to figure that out the hard way. "But wait a minute here... if I spend a fat buck for a whiz bang course I am guaranteed success, right?" WRONG!
Maybe I am wrong though--You don't know, I don't know. So if you wish to throw some money out there to see if this brings you wisdom and ability the easy way with less study or effort, I suggest you start with Zengrifter's seminar on "Conventional Truth and Ultimate Truth". There are many paths to go from there and many valuable learning experiences after that, so many different tangents of purchased wisdom that are truly guaranteed to increase your perception of the world around you.
If you really want to learn buy books recommended buy Ken Smith.
If you want to learn and get the feeling of real casino environment buy
Casino Verite. Maybe you will only spend around $300 dollars.
Even the smartest blackjack player can't help you if you don't have the
discipline to practice and learn.
If you want to learn and get the feeling of real casino environment buy
Casino Verite. Maybe you will only spend around $300 dollars.
Even the smartest blackjack player can't help you if you don't have the
discipline to practice and learn.