Can I Add These 2 Deviations?

BoSox

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#86
21forme said:
You must be joking. He's constantly responding to the voices in his head. Apparently he ran out of his Thorazine.
I am not joking, and I do not like the type of post that you just made. Do you think that Moses and I have not argued previously? There have been plenty and I am sure there will be more down the road but there are no reasons whats so ever not to keep it civilly which I intend to do.
 
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BoSox

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#87
KJ, I really appreciate you reaching out on Z Z to attempt some conversing dialog with Moses. Better straight up on the same board where both parties can participate, it avoids a lot of trouble.
 
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KewlJ

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#89
BoSox said:
Why not just ask KJ himself?
As a general rule, when I post of a specific incident that could be identifying, meaning the if pit guy or dealer were reading they might say "hey I know who that was", I will use a delay. I may post something as if it happened today when it really happened a few weeks ago.

Occasionally I violate that rule, if I think it is something that just doesn't matter. And occasionally I will think it something irrelevant and post and then read it and change my mind and delete it.

But regardless, that is my decision to make. What business is it of Norm's what I post. If I want to post details of every session I play in real time, minutes after I walk away from the table, I can. I don't think I would have a long career., but that's my call.....NOT Norm's.
 

KewlJ

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#90
BoSox said:
KJ, I really appreciate you reaching out on Z Z to attempt some conversing dialog with Moses. Better straight up on the same board where both parties can participate, it avoids a lot of trouble.
I did do that for you BoSox. But I am already having second thoughts, just reading some of the recent things he said about 21forme. This guy is not going to change.

I mean he stalked me to my home this summer. Building security called the cops. And if it wasn't him, as he claims, it was someone that he encouraged and got the idea from him.

He has repeatedly threatened to find me and take pictures to distribute to casinos in Las Vegas. THAT should disqualify him from any AP forum.

BoSox, I don't think you were yet at VCT when Moses joined. Go back and read. He came aboard all friendly, praising me (which I knew was fake) before he turned. He later admitted that was all about trying to get personal information.

I am pretty sure he is the guy that at WoV, blatantly made a public post asking for information, picture, address, phone number for me. To his credit Wizard banned that guy.

In the past few days he has attempted to out 21forme by publicly posting where Moses thinks 21forme resides.

I am all for second chances BoSox. And just because I don't like someone or don't agree with them doesn't mean that they others might not find value in them. But this guy has burned a lot of bridges. He is going to have to do some serious bridge building to show that he wants to be a reasonable person, let alone member of this community.
 

KewlJ

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#91
And also 21forme is right. Moses is banned at EVERY forum he has gone to, including this one where Al Rogers is pretty tolerant. It takes many repeated offenses to get banned from here. Moses is banned at VCT where it is all impossible to get banned. :rolleyes:

Now you can defend him by pointing out that I am banned at Norm's board and WoV. But obviously those are related and strictly one persons doing. And as we now approach 5 years, it is pretty obvious to everyone that I was right about the T3 situation and had every right to challenge his claims. I mean yeah you can argue I got pretty nasty, but there is no argument that I have been proven right. Norm protected and enabled a guy for years that was intentionally misleading players with his phony impossible claims and math. And Norm is a freaking math guy!
 

21forme

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#92
Bosox - When you incite someone who is unstable and/or mentally ill, no good can come from it. KJ made an attempt to make peace and read what the response was. Not unexpected in this case.
 

BoSox

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#93
21forme said:
Bosox - When you incite someone who is unstable and/or mentally ill, no good can come from it.
21forme, is that an implication that I am inciting Moses? The reason for my posts in the thread is primarily due to your provocations. Think whatever you want about the man that is your choice, but it would be nice if you kept it to yourself instead of writing about it.
 

KewlJ

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#94
BoSox said:
21forme, is that an implication that I am inciting Moses? The reason for my posts in the thread is primarily due to your provocations. Think whatever you want about the man that is your choice, but it would be nice if you kept it to yourself instead of writing about it.
Bosox, couldn't and shouldn't you say the same to the guy you are defending?

He may not be on this forum or that forum, but he incites from where he does post. Again, he attempted to out 21forme in just the last couple days. You seem to be turning a blind eye to that most egregious behavior.
 

21forme

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#95
KewlJ said:
Bosox, couldn't and shouldn't you say the same to the guy you are defending?

He may not be on this forum or that forum, but he incites from where he does post. Again, he attempted to out 21forme in just the last couple days. You seem to be turning a blind eye to that most egregious behavior.
Bingo!

To quote Willie Shakespeare:
It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

And to quote Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

With that, I'm done. The sick bastard can continue to profess hate to his listeners, you and MWP, while x(z)engrifter can sit back and laugh, thinking paying $80/year to keep that pathetic site up and running is cheap entertainment.
 

BoSox

Well-Known Member
#97
KewlJ said:
Bosox, couldn't and shouldn't you say the same to the guy you are defending?

He may not be on this forum or that forum, but he incites from where he does post.
While sitting in the cheap seats I see a deliberate attempt by you guys to incite Moses and him responding accordingly. Besides, supposedly only MWP and myself are the only two who visit the site according to you and 21forme so what is bothering you guys.

21forme said:
Bingo!

To quote Willie Shakespeare:
It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

And to quote Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

With that, I'm done. The sick bastard can continue to profess hate to his listeners, you and MWP, while x(z)engrifter can sit back and laugh, thinking paying $80/year to keep that pathetic site up and running is cheap entertainment.
21forme, I see you as the lead instigator in all of this and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself. Take your Shakespeare and Einstein quotes and shove them up your ass.
 

Raven

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xengrifter said:
How did you accomplish this "adaptation"?
Let's make sure you did this right.
I moved all 7's to .5 and added in the red 2s. Kept the start point and pivot the same. I use 21 deviations from K3. Then true count the start point as each deck is played out. Very rarely do I play anything below that at any point in the shoe. This requires more units in pocket on any given day, just because average bet is higher round to round, but lowers total bankroll requirement in return. It's a tradeoff I can adjust as needed. Good to go?
 
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