Hi everyone, I am on a trip to HK now and will be going to Macau very soon. Macau uses CSM but some of them uses discard trays and wait until the tray of one deck high fills up before putting them back to the csm. I am planning to CC even tho the PEN is bad. I read on wizard of odds the HA can be as low as .10. If i use High low, does it mean i am playing an advantageous game at 1/2 TC or is there other mathematic calculation behind this. And if I use the original zen, do I have the advantage at TC 1. I want to use some huge spread , does someone encountered heat before. Thanks in advance for your replies. By the way I would like to travel in korea, I found info on Seoul casino but none on cheju island, would like to have more info on cheju and which of these 2 places has the most profitable game.