DD explosion?

blackchipjim

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I got back from sin city last night and I'm still pondering what and when the arrival of the DD explosion happend. I don't remember seeing so many DD games back in september of last year. Everyplace I went it seemed that the stores replaced their shoe games with DD. Is this the new norm here or is it just my preception?
 
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kewljason

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21forme said:
Are they good DD games or those with crippled rules like NDAS, D10, etc?
No. There are good double deck games! :) But they are watched closely in many/most cases. I like to refer to them as counter-traps. Too good of an opportunity to ignore, but be careful. Especially if you play regularly in this town. :rolleyes: I play a good mix of games.

Good games, good weather (most of the year), legalized prostitution, free drinks. I haven't figured out why more of you haven't headed this way. :laugh: The area that includes the strip and just east (UNLV) is not Las Vegas. Officially it is Clark County unincorporated, which in itself is kind of odd as most unincorporated areas are very sparsely populated rural areas. Paradise is actually the most populated unincorporated area of the county. But anyway officially it's Clark County unincorporated, but unofficially it's Paradise. The Census Bureau even recognizes it as Paradise. At one time Paradise was a separate town. So although others, like 21 and CP, will disagree, it's not a stretch for me to say that this is Paradise. :)
 
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blackchipjim

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DD scene?

I was kinda rushed unfortunately for me to scan and record the games I saw. I don't play DD, but I may have to start if this is the new norm in LV. I really get thrown for a loop every time I go back. I did enjoy some very good shoe games that I found and didn't get any hassles.
 

kewljason

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blackchipjim said:
I was kinda rushed unfortunately for me to scan and record the games I saw. I don't play DD, but I may have to start if this is the new norm in LV. I really get thrown for a loop every time I go back. I did enjoy some very good shoe games that I found and didn't get any hassles.
I was "raised" on 6/8 deck games, so when I came out here intended to pretty much stick with that as they draw far less attention here, but, the DD games are just too good to pass up entirely, so I have incorporated them into my play. :)
 

21gunsalute

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kewljason said:
No. There are good double deck games! :) But they are watched closely in many/most cases. I like to refer to them as counter-traps. Too good of an opportunity to ignore, but be careful. Especially if you play regularly in this town. :rolleyes: I play a good mix of games.

Good games, good weather (most of the year), legalized prostitution, free drinks. I haven't figured out why more of you haven't headed this way. :laugh: The area that includes the strip and just east (UNLV) is not Las Vegas. Officially it is Clark County unincorporated, which in itself is kind of odd as most unincorporated areas are very sparsely populated rural areas. Paradise is actually the most populated unincorporated area of the county. But anyway officially it's Clark County unincorporated, but unofficially it's Paradise. The Census Bureau even recognizes it as Paradise. At one time Paradise was a separate town. So although others, like 21 and CP, will disagree, it's not a stretch for me to say that this is Paradise. :)
I thought the city of Las Vegas annexed the strip several years ago.
 

moo321

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Jack_Black said:
as in wear a 3 hole face mask while playing DD? That's a great idea! or even a motorcycle helmet will do.
Hat and sunglasses, fake beard, real beard, prop glasses, I mean, whatever you want
 

Homeschool

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21gunsalute said:
I thought the city of Las Vegas annexed the strip several years ago.
They wish they could've.....The only "strip" casino that is actually within the city limits of Las Vegas is the Strat.


Homeschool
 

aslan

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kewljason said:
No. There are good double deck games! :) But they are watched closely in many/most cases. I like to refer to them as counter-traps. Too good of an opportunity to ignore, but be careful. Especially if you play regularly in this town. :rolleyes: I play a good mix of games.

Good games, good weather (most of the year), legalized prostitution, free drinks. I haven't figured out why more of you haven't headed this way. :laugh: The area that includes the strip and just east (UNLV) is not Las Vegas. Officially it is Clark County unincorporated, which in itself is kind of odd as most unincorporated areas are very sparsely populated rural areas. Paradise is actually the most populated unincorporated area of the county. But anyway officially it's Clark County unincorporated, but unofficially it's Paradise. The Census Bureau even recognizes it as Paradise. At one time Paradise was a separate town. So although others, like 21 and CP, will disagree, it's not a stretch for me to say that this is Paradise. :)
Prostitution is NOT legal in Las Vegas or anywhere else in Clark County. It is legal elsewhere in Nevada, like Pahrump, which is 60 miles west of Las Vegas.
 

kewljason

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#14
aslan said:
Prostitution is NOT legal in Las Vegas or anywhere else in Clark County. It is legal elsewhere in Nevada, like Pahrump, which is 60 miles west of Las Vegas.
Yes I know that. But guess what. I shouldn't have said "legal" I should have said tolerated. :eek:
 

aslan

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kewljason said:
No. There are good double deck games! :) But they are watched closely in many/most cases. I like to refer to them as counter-traps. Too good of an opportunity to ignore, but be careful. Especially if you play regularly in this town. :rolleyes: I play a good mix of games.

Good games, good weather (most of the year), legalized prostitution, free drinks. I haven't figured out why more of you haven't headed this way. :laugh: The area that includes the strip and just east (UNLV) is not Las Vegas. Officially it is Clark County unincorporated, which in itself is kind of odd as most unincorporated areas are very sparsely populated rural areas. Paradise is actually the most populated unincorporated area of the county. But anyway officially it's Clark County unincorporated, but unofficially it's Paradise. The Census Bureau even recognizes it as Paradise. At one time Paradise was a separate town. So although others, like 21 and CP, will disagree, it's not a stretch for me to say that this is Paradise. :)
I have a home in Spring Valley, on the western border of Paradise, but which like Paradise is no more than a geographical designation for a part of Clark County. Neither has a government or any services of its own. Except for a small sign I've seen occasionally on my trip south from Karen Street on Paradise Road, there is no clue that you are in any place different from the rest of Clark County. People who live here generally consider it all Clark County, or Las Vegas Metropolitan Area, which most people use to designate everything from the city of Las Vegas to North Las Vegas to Summerlin to Paradise to Spring Valley to Henderson and even to Boulder City.

I've never heard a local refer to Paradise as Paradise. They'll say, "east or west of the strip", "along Paradise Road", "near the Hilton", "two blocks east of the Bellagio", "Flamingo and Harmon", "the strip", but never have I heard "in Paradise." Likewise, I never hear anyone mention Spring Valley-- it's just a place in Vegas a few miles west of the strip, or the area west of Decatur Blvd.

But I do like the romantic notion of the strip being apart from Las Vegas (even though it isn't, not fron LV Metro Area anyway) and actually being in the town of Paradise (which is a stretch for the use of the term "town").

In support of what you say, LV is a great place to gamble, to party, to play golf, and to find entertainment; also, I've met a bunch of great people here. In support of CP and 21forme, LV is a lousy place to raise children, spend the summer, and may have few blackjack games as good as the ones you left back in dear old Pennsylvania; also, there's lots of great people in PA, too.
 
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I would like to live for 6 months or a year in Vegas supporting myself as an AP, sometime while I'm still young and single. But I have a job back home and supplement my income with blackjack and poker. I probably will get tired of looking at cards all day every day, and backed off at a lot of places.

I live near several PA casinos which all have better rules than most of Vegas and my main casino tolerates my action when I hit it about once a week. The advantages of Vegas would be lots of SD and DD games, a constant influx of "fish" at the poker tables, and good weather in every season but summer. In PA, the advantages are excellent BJ rules, great weather in summer, late spring and early fall, but I noticed a lot of the poker players are regulars. AC on the weekends tends to bring an influx of bad poker players.
 

aslan

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alwayssplitaces said:
I would like to live for 6 months or a year in Vegas supporting myself as an AP, sometime while I'm still young and single. But I have a job back home and supplement my income with blackjack and poker. I probably will get tired of looking at cards all day every day, and backed off at a lot of places.

I live near several PA casinos which all have better rules than most of Vegas and my main casino tolerates my action when I hit it about once a week. The advantages of Vegas would be lots of SD and DD games, a constant influx of "fish" at the poker tables, and good weather in every season but summer. In PA, the advantages are excellent BJ rules, great weather in summer, late spring and early fall, but I noticed a lot of the poker players are regulars. AC on the weekends tends to bring an influx of bad poker players.
You won't find lots of SD games in Vegas except those at 6:5. But DD games abound. Still, most are H17 and many are NDAS and still others are D10. Hard to beat many of them, but rules and pen vary. In the larger casinos almost all the DD games are $25 and up, but lower min games are available downtown and other places off the strip. Things change and memory fails, but that's how I remember it from last fall.
 

forwhat77

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Conditions are constantly changing out here, and yes DD are everywhere. Some are unplayable, but there are just as many that are easily beatable. There are even a few SD being dealt very, very, deeply. Albeit 6:5, some are worth pitching a few rocks at. Get what you can as fast as you can for the SD, because it may disappear right before your eyes:(
 

kewljason

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aslan said:
I have a home in Spring Valley, on the western border of Paradise, but which like Paradise is no more than a geographical designation for a part of Clark County. Neither has a government or any services of its own. Except for a small sign I've seen occasionally on my trip south from Karen Street on Paradise Road, there is no clue that you are in any place different from the rest of Clark County. People who live here generally consider it all Clark County, or Las Vegas Metropolitan Area, which most people use to designate everything from the city of Las Vegas to North Las Vegas to Summerlin to Paradise to Spring Valley to Henderson and even to Boulder City.

I've never heard a local refer to Paradise as Paradise. They'll say, "east or west of the strip", "along Paradise Road", "near the Hilton", "two blocks east of the Bellagio", "Flamingo and Harmon", "the strip", but never have I heard "in Paradise." Likewise, I never hear anyone mention Spring Valley-- it's just a place in Vegas a few miles west of the strip, or the area west of Decatur Blvd.

But I do like the romantic notion of the strip being apart from Las Vegas (even though it isn't, not fron LV Metro Area anyway) and actually being in the town of Paradise (which is a stretch for the use of the term "town").

In support of what you say, LV is a great place to gamble, to party, to play golf, and to find entertainment; also, I've met a bunch of great people here. In support of CP and 21forme, LV is a lousy place to raise children, spend the summer, and may have few blackjack games as good as the ones you left back in dear old Pennsylvania; also, there's lots of great people in PA, too.
Ok neighbor. And I just recently learned of 2 other members that live here parttime. You guys just aren't as vocal about it as me. Closet Las Vegas-ites, I guess.

So you never heard a local refer to Paradise. Now you have! :) get used to it,, as I am a trend setter. :laugh:

here is my knowledge of Spring Valley. I sometimes catch the fairly new centenial express bus going downtown. It runs from UNLV thru the howard hughes parkway, where I catch it, crosses, LVB at treasure Island and fashion show mall them jumps on I-15 going downtown before heading to centenial hills park and ride somewhere up north or northwest. Anyway, the driver calls that stop at LVB and Fashion show mall, Spring valley stop. :confused: So I guess its around there somewhere. :laugh:

My comments about LV being a fun place to live and how much I enjoy it are mainly directed at some of the younger members. I am not married, nor have children, but I would think it is sub par for that. I wasn't advising any one to pick up there family and move to LV for the BJ games. :eek:

Summers? everyone knows about summers here. It's the desert for god sakes. plan accordingly or escape if you are able to. But the other 9 months. Paradise! :eek::laugh::p
 
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aslan

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kewljason said:
Ok neighbor. And I just recently learned of 2 other members that live here parttime. You guys just aren't as vocal about it as me. Closet Las Vegas-ites, I guess.

So you never heard a local refer to Paradise. Now you have! :) get used to it,, as I am a trend setter. :laugh:

here is my knowledge of Spring Valley. I sometimes catch the fairly new centenial express bus going downtown. It runs from UNLV thru the howard hughes parkway, where I catch it, crosses, LVB at treasure Island and fashion show mall them jumps on I-15 going downtown before heading to centenial hills park and ride somewhere up north or northwest. Anyway, the driver calls that stop at LVB and Fashion show mall, Spring valley stop. :confused: So I guess its around there somewhere. :laugh:

My comments about LV being a fun place to live and how much I enjoy it are mainly directed at some of the younger members. I am not married, nor have children, but I would think it is sub par for that. I wasn't advising any one to pick up there family and move to LV for the BJ games. :eek:

Summers? everyone knows about summers here. It's the desert for god sakes. plan accordingly or escape if you are able to. But the other 9 months. Paradise! :eek::laugh::p
I think the driver must have said Spring Mountain stop. Spring Valley is several miles west of the strip and is about 180,000 population.

I was fascinated with the idea that the strip was in Paradise when I first heard it. I mentioned it to a friend in LV and he said, oh, that's a water district. It doesn't really mean anything.

I love Vegas. Nowhere else in the world is as open 24 hours a day as Las Vegas. Want to eat or have a cup of coffee anytime night or day-- Las Vegas is the place. It's a party town. It's an active town. It's a restaurant town. It's a Sports Bar town. I like the fact that I can strike up a conversation with anyone anywhere in the city-- the drug store clerk, the Starbucks girl, the dealer, the waitress, etc. etc.-- by asking them where they're from. Hardly anyone is from Vegas unless they're really young. Everyone has a story about how they got there, what they do, and how they like it. Last trip a 40ish dealer was telling me when she was going to retire and what she planned to do in retirement. We got into quite a conversation over $25 double deck. And that same night, a pit boss was telling me about how the flash flood a few years back wiped out his home near Rainbow and Hacienda. Quite a story.

As far as the weather goes, I agree-- 9 months a year are great. The other three months, either stay inside or head elsewhere. Of course, Mt. Charleston is only an hour away, and at that altitude it's a whole lot cooler.
 
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