difficult to walk out with the winnings !

#1
advice required,

have just started playing black jack and am having some good results in the first half of 3 hour sessions.

play using basic system and normally have cash to start of about £400.00.

nomally up about £200.00 in one to one and half hours.

advise or methods on how to stop and get out before losing everything.

find it difficult to stop when ahead


thanks Rasputinn :cry:
 

BlackDog

Well-Known Member
#2
rasputinn said:
advice required,

have just started playing black jack and am having some good results in the first half of 3 hour sessions.

play using basic system and normally have cash to start of about £400.00.

nomally up about £200.00 in one to one and half hours.

advise or methods on how to stop and get out before losing everything.

find it difficult to stop when ahead


thanks Rasputinn :cry:
What I have done since starting my training sessions at home is this. I set a limit for losses and winnings before I even sit down. Then no matter which limit I reach first I stop get up and do something else for a while. Then come back and start all over...

It takes a bit of discipline but it seems to be working so far. Now I just have to put it to the test at a real casino :D
 
#3
:) I have the very same problem! And what makes it even worse? I say i will leave at some point, then i decide to stay and end up winning a bunch!

I think the best thing to do is to stick to whatever you set though. I have also lost more when not being disciplined. Personally, my limits are:
4x whatever i bring in,
2-4 hours
if i lose what i bring in, i'm done.
if i have 4x what i brought in in my pocket, i will use whatever is left over as "play money" until i hit one of the other limits.

What is so nasty about going to casinos is that afterwards you look back and see how cloudy-headed you can get after many hours of play... but at the time you don't realize... if you get a good win you should walk around, dring something (water, etc), take a restroom break, use some comps on some food or something!! The more refreshed you are the better you will likely do and the more fun it will be!

I have played for 8 hours straight before... i at the very least stick with basic strategy, but my betting strategy becomes very risky. I end up being like "it will turn around the next hand, so i will bet max! lol"

The betting strategy that has worked the best for me so far on a 4-deck shoe... start small, build up if the shoe is paying out... and at Treasure Island in redwing, minnesota... they don't shuffle nearly as thoroughly as i have seen at other casinos. I swear that a good shoe tends to stay a good shoe and a bad shoe stays bad for a quite a while. There is a chance a shoe can turn around... but last time i went, i sat down on a 4-deck shoe and lost most hands in a 6-hour period. i switched tables on the last shoe before it was about to be closed down, i won almost every hand (6-deck), i switched to another 4-deck shoe and it was hot the entire night! i won everything back and more! In the previous times I went, i have found nice tables which keep on paying out... i end up building up to table max ($195) and just keep winning them!
Its a wonderful feeling when they have to bring out black chips to refill the chip tray ;)
Now if only online casinos had as good of odds as a real table with a 4-deck shoe...
 
#4
I honestly think this is the reason that casinos make a lot from BJ. I know the odds are in the houses favor in the long run, but I see more people win than lose right away. But then they get stupid because they are playing with the casinos money. It has happened to me. Even in the past 4 days. i won 375 Monday, 525 Tuesday. I went Wednesday because a friend wanted to go and I was just going to play 100 bucks at a 10 dollar table betting the minimun for fun and ended up losing 500 because I thought hey, what the heck, it's money I didn't have anyway. And when I'm down and aggrivated, I do the same thing and think the dealers luck has to change sometime so I throw a big bet out there only to double and lose.

Mike
 
#5
I know what you mean SoBu Mike,
I just played 313 hands in the sim and lost everything (The $1000 we given)
Other times iv won $600 (walk out point atm), Full BS, Flat betting 15-30. Guess cards wernt in my favour this time :flame:
 

Scorcho

Active Member
#6
rasputinn said:
advice required,

have just started playing black jack and am having some good results in the first half of 3 hour sessions.

play using basic system and normally have cash to start of about £400.00.

nomally up about £200.00 in one to one and half hours.

advise or methods on how to stop and get out before losing everything.

find it difficult to stop when ahead


thanks Rasputinn :cry:

Yes, learn to count cards :laugh:

anyways, this is the method I used to use when I was a BS player.....

I'd walk in with so much, then I'd keep playing until I doubled it, then I set the first half of my money aside and said that I would not touch it again for the night.

So say I walked in with $100, if I got up to $200, I set the original $100 aside and only played with the $200 I just made, if I made another $100, I set the half I was playing with aside and played with that $100 so I effectivly had a "bank" that I just kept putting money into, and if I lost the $100 I was playing with, I'd up and leave. It's not really sceintific and won't make money in the long run, but it's a reasonable way to make sure you don't lose what you started with.
 

Mikeaber

Well-Known Member
#7
Or, at least to loose no more than you started with:rolleyes: I've got the same attitude with "winnings" when it comes to ratholeing them. But, I will in a nanosecond dip into my original stash or even into my pocket if I have a lot out in the circle and have an advantageous split or double down (or preferably BOTH). Those are the hands that I play and pray for in BJ....and often the ones that end my sessions ;)



Scorcho said:
Yes, learn to count cards :laugh:

anyways, this is the method I used to use when I was a BS player.....

I'd walk in with so much, then I'd keep playing until I doubled it, then I set the first half of my money aside and said that I would not touch it again for the night.

So say I walked in with $100, if I got up to $200, I set the original $100 aside and only played with the $200 I just made, if I made another $100, I set the half I was playing with aside and played with that $100 so I effectivly had a "bank" that I just kept putting money into, and if I lost the $100 I was playing with, I'd up and leave. It's not really sceintific and won't make money in the long run, but it's a reasonable way to make sure you don't lose what you started with.
 
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