Double Deck penetration...

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UFo kidnapper

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The short of it: COULD SOME ONE PLEASE PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF CASINOS IN VEGAS WITH A MANDATORY 3/4 PENETRATION..




I am kinda confused. No one here addresses the issue of penetration. I bring this up after one of the most frustrating trips i have ever taken to Vegas. (Could be that since i finally horned my skill and feel supremely confident and know what to look for, my frustration switch sets off really fast)... What really shocks me is how i have previously gotten away playing some of the worst black jack games in vegas and not lost my shirt...

I favor Double deck BJ. But for the life of me i couldnt find a single good casino with penetration of about 1.5 (or 3/4 of the deck).. I even had some buffoon dealer explain to me that he was worried he would run out of cards if he put the cut card at 3/4. I called him a liar and got up and left. (The relief dealer i found at the table was doing 3/4 but at the Rio this isnt the norm. They deal you half the deck) Spent 4 days hunting and walking in that hot F@cking heat looking for a good table and could barely find one. The one place i found at the Orleans just happened to have a newbie dealer cutting at 3/4 and some drunk bastard put the kibosh on my counting 1 hour into the session.


I dont think penetration is discussed nearly enough. Guys i know you already know this. Its almost impossible to beat BJ if you have such nazi style penetration like is prevalent on in Vegas.


COULD SOME ONE PLEASE PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF CASINOS IN VEGAS WITH A MANDATORY 3/4 PENETRATION..(I DONT CARE IF ITS 6/5 SO PLEASE SAVE ME THE LECTURES) JUST GIVE ME SOME HELP FOR MY NEXT TRIP
 
creeping panther

creeping panther

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Ufo

UFo kidnapper said:
The short of it: COULD SOME ONE PLEASE PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF CASINOS IN VEGAS WITH A MANDATORY 3/4 PENETRATION..




I am kinda confused. No one here addresses the issue of penetration. I bring this up after one of the most frustrating trips i have ever taken to Vegas. (Could be that since i finally horned my skill and feel supremely confident and know what to look for, my frustration switch sets off really fast)... What really shocks me is how i have previously gotten away playing some of the worst black jack games in vegas and not lost my shirt...

I favor Double deck BJ. But for the life of me i couldnt find a single good casino with penetration of about 1.5 (or 3/4 of the deck).. I even had some buffoon dealer explain to me that he was worried he would run out of cards if he put the cut card at 3/4. I called him a liar and got up and left. (The relief dealer i found at the table was doing 3/4 but at the Rio this isnt the norm. They deal you half the deck) Spent 4 days hunting and walking in that hot F@cking heat looking for a good table and could barely find one. The one place i found at the Orleans just happened to have a newbie dealer cutting at 3/4 and some drunk bastard put the kibosh on my counting 1 hour into the session.


I dont think penetration is discussed nearly enough. Guys i know you already know this. Its almost impossible to beat BJ if you have such nazi style penetration like is prevalent on in Vegas.


COULD SOME ONE PLEASE PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF CASINOS IN VEGAS WITH A MANDATORY 3/4 PENETRATION..(I DONT CARE IF ITS 6/5 SO PLEASE SAVE ME THE LECTURES) JUST GIVE ME SOME HELP FOR MY NEXT TRIP
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2 words.....FU** Vegas.

Tonight I am playing DD with 78%, and it is no big deal as I often get 85%.

Vegas can S*** My D***

CP
 
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shadroch

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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
Teach the man to fish and he eats for a lifetime.

What you are looking for is easily found.
 
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UFo kidnapper

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creeping panther said:
2 words.....FU** Vegas.

Tonight I am playing DD with 78%, and it is no big deal as I often get 85%.

Vegas can S*** My D***

CP
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Doesnt have to be vegas. Just tell me where a man can go for anything over 70%.
 
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UFo kidnapper

New Member
shadroch said:
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day
Teach the man to fish and he eats for a lifetime.

What you are looking for is easily found.
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Well i had a tough time in 3 days in that vegas heat including that pussy of a heat wave on tuesday..(i almost died in it). I could hardly find a good game.

May be i was wrong to fool around on the strip, but some folks gotta know some places where i can get a good game off the strip.
 
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SystemsTrader

Well-Known Member
UFo kidnapper said:
Doesnt have to be vegas. Just tell me where a man can go for anything over 70%.
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It's poor etiquette to give away casinos with good pen on a public board. Players want to protect those games that's why you haven't had a response. Seek and ye shall find!
 
ihate17

ihate17

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I do not even trade, unless it is real real special

shadroch said:
What you have to trade?
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Let us say that you find a decent Vegas game but because one department of the casino is not really communicating with another, this game OK rules, average pen, can be a nicely positive EV game to the basic strategy player.
Sharing with one person, who tells another, who tells another etc etc, can easily burn the game out in an instant.
Do you share?
Do you return before they figure it out? (hopefully)

I return and keep my personal ATM just that till they close it.

ihate17
 
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mjbballar23

Well-Known Member
UFo kidnapper said:
I dont think penetration is discussed nearly enough. Guys i know you already know this. Its almost impossible to beat BJ if you have such nazi style penetration like is prevalent on in Vegas.
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There is good reason for this. Games have been getting worse and worse over the years. People are starting to realize that they need to preserve the few good games that exist. Good games exist, but your not gonna get many people on this board telling you about them. Also, Vegas is NO longer the place to play...
 
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Blue Efficacy

Well-Known Member
And anybody who reports a blackjack game that cuts 1/2 deck or less from DD or 1 deck or less from a shoe game is nothing short of a sellout.
 
moo321

moo321

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Blue Efficacy said:
And anybody who reports a blackjack game that cuts 1/2 deck or less from DD or 1 deck or less from a shoe game is nothing short of a sellout.
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The Sheraton in Tunica cuts less than a deck off of their shoe games.




But it's 6:5.... Am I still a sellout?
 
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mrwoofer

Member
The wynn/encore consistently cut at 75% every time, pay 3:2 but they have a $500 a hand min on those decks. Outside of the salon at the wynn it is H17/75%pen and $100 to $300 min.

I have consistently won 10 to 50k a trip playing DD at the wynn. And FYI i go almost every month.
 
creeping panther

creeping panther

Banned
Hmmm

mrwoofer said:
The wynn/encore consistently cut at 75% every time, pay 3:2 but they have a $500 a hand min on those decks. Outside of the salon at the wynn it is H17/75%pen and $100 to $300 min.

I have consistently won 10 to 50k a trip playing DD at the wynn. And FYI i go almost every month.
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Playing $500 a hand min........ doesn't surprise me at all.

You are a rich man.

CP
 
bj bob

bj bob

Well-Known Member
UFo kidnapper said:
The short of it: COULD SOME ONE PLEASE PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF CASINOS IN VEGAS WITH A MANDATORY 3/4 PENETRATION..






I dont think penetration is discussed nearly enough. Guys i know you already know this. Its almost impossible to beat BJ if you have such nazi style penetration like is prevalent on in Vegas.


COULD SOME ONE PLEASE PLEASE PROVIDE A LIST OF CASINOS IN VEGAS WITH A MANDATORY 3/4 PENETRATION..(I DONT CARE IF ITS 6/5 SO PLEASE SAVE ME THE LECTURES) JUST GIVE ME SOME HELP FOR MY NEXT TRIP
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So as not to seem "insensitive" or "offensive" (God I love that word!) you will not find anything specific about penetration or dealer gaffs on this board in public, the reason for which has already been expressed.This type of information is, however shared privately among the members here who have, over the years built up a personal trust with each other over time. I have and still do share this info with select members who I have personally met, played with, or have continually shared "trade secrets" with. None of this comes over a short period of time in any case.
 
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