Doubling 10 v A

Dopple

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I did this a couple times the other day for two wins making an extra $100.

My UAPC shows this move good at TC6 where HiLo uses TC4.

I assume the reason for this difference is just the way the numbers and aces stack up for these two different systems. There must be a simple good solid reason this giant two point difference exists so I should just abide by the numbers and keep quiet right.

Would one have the tendency to maybe ease down the TC6 of UAPC. This number is baked into my forehead, it would easy to make it 5.6 if it were more accurate.

I'm just thinkin', that's not me stinkin'!
 

jack.jackson

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Dopple said:
I did this a couple times the other day for two wins making an extra $100.

My UAPC shows this move good at TC6 where HiLo uses TC4.

I assume the reason for this difference is just the way the numbers and aces stack up for these two different systems. There must be a simple good solid reason this giant two point difference exists so I should just abide by the numbers and keep quiet right.

Would one have the tendency to maybe ease down the TC6 of UAPC. This number is baked into my forehead, it would easy to make it 5.6 if it were more accurate.

I'm just thinkin', that's not me stinkin'!
Im aware of hi-los 5 point count verses APC 13-point count and the difference is not an accurate assumption. Your index should be double what it is, provided you calculate your TC on per deck basis.

For example if your RC is +4 with 2 decks left your TC would be +2(per deck)

However, if your using 1/2 decks your TC would now be +1 (4 divded by 4)instead of +2. Thats probably why your using 1/2 indices, where-as hi-lo uses full deck estimation.

Make sure, you are claculting your TC correctly with the indexes published in the book.
 

Sucker

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The Uston APC is a level 3 counting system, whereby the cards are assigned a different value than simple Hi-Lo. For example, in UAPC the five is counted as +3 rather than the +1 that you would count it as, if you were playing Hi-Lo. The tens count as -3 in Uston's count as opposed to -1 for Hi-Lo. This accounts for the discrepancy in the numbers. So it depends upon which system you're using, for which numbers you need to go by. Both numbers are correct.

A little bit of trivia: Ken Uston himself did not use this system, as he considered it too complicated for the tiny gain it obtains over Hi-Lo. The only reason he even developed it was because he had to put SOMETHING in the book that he could claim that HE invented. He didn't want to get sued for plagiarism.
 

Dopple

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I have used the systems so long it would be harder for me to go to HiLo.

I use the half deck estimate like I am suppose to.

Thanks for the feedback.
 

moo321

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Also, 10 v. A is a risk averse index, so if you have a large bet out, it's usually optimal to hit when you're close to the index.
 
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