Extending skills, what to learn next after counting?

[FreeStyle]

So I've learned the hi-lo count, BS, and the illustrious 18. What next? I would like something else to remorize and/or practice. Any suggestions?

Also, I was thinking if I should add a side count to aces since I am getting better at keeping track of the count. Any thoughts if this is beneficial enough to add the extra brain power?

 

[sagefr0g]

So I've learned the hi-lo count, BS, and the illustrious 18. What next? I would like something else to remorize and/or practice. Any suggestions?

Also, I was thinking if I should add a side count to aces since I am getting better at keeping track of the count. Any thoughts if this is beneficial enough to add the extra brain power?

have you gotten into learning how to bet optimally, understand what to expect and how that expectation may fluctuate, how to judge your performance against such expectations? then there is bankroll considerations and ror, risk of ruin stuff.
how about game selection? keep in mind rules, number of decks and penetration affect your playing strategy (bs & bs deviations), betting and your expectation.

 

[shadroch]

In all seriousness, I'd suggest learning how to be nice to casino employees.
Way too many people here look at them as the enemy. They are not.
The pit boss is the gatekeeper to all the casino has to offer-steakhouses, buffets, suites, ect, ect. A friendly dealer may forget to take your losing bet, or help in any number of ways.
Learn how to befriend these folks and you'll get far better results than learning an indice for a play that occurs once every three hundred hands.

 

[FreeStyle]

have you gotten into learning how to bet optimally, understand what to expect and how that expectation may fluctuate, how to judge your performance against such expectations? then there is bankroll considerations and ror, risk of ruin stuff.
how about game selection? keep in mind rules, number of decks and penetration affect your playing strategy (bs & bs deviations), betting and your expectation.

Those are all well and good. I try to learn more and more about the game in general every day by reading online and books.

However, my question related to more about skills and memorizations. I wanted to know if there was something else I can practice and or/memorize? It would be nice cause then I can continue practicing at work

 

[assume_R]

• If you use a balanced system, you could take some time learning more accurate deck estimation (maybe 5.25 vs 5 decks remaining) and division. It will give you a more accurate count for betting purposes (playing indices wouldn't change too much except on some borderline counts).
• Practice seeing a full table and very quickly determining the count.
• Practicing talking and socializing while counting
• Practice counting when drunk (this way you can drink at the table ) :devil:

Edit: #4 could be especially fun at work! jk

 

[BMDD]

Realize that your attitude and discipline can easily determine whether or not you are successful at blackjack.

I am just finishing reading Ian Andersen's "Burning the Tables in Las Vegas", and have found it to be one of the most informative blackjack books I've read.

 

[Lonesome Gambler]

In all seriousness, I'd suggest learning how to be nice to casino employees.
Way too many people here look at them as the enemy. They are not.
The pit boss is the gatekeeper to all the casino has to offer-steakhouses, buffets, suites, ect, ect. A friendly dealer may forget to take your losing bet, or help in any number of ways.
Learn how to befriend these folks and you'll get far better results than learning an indice for a play that occurs once every three hundred hands.

This is a great post. A lot of counters have an adversarial relationship with casino staff, which is generally appropriate given the nature of the relationship, but you'd be surprised with what you can get away with when the staff likes you. I'm a low-level guy, so obviously my experiences only go so far, but I've escaped heat-free in many situations where I feel I shouldn't have, and I often attribute that to the way that I interact with the pit and other casino personnel. One of my favorite instances is playing heads-up at a top-notch DD game at a notoriously sweaty downtown joint while joking around with the boss, and old-timer that definitely knew the angles. He was sad to see me go after a good-length session with a large (for this place) win. Card counters aren't friendly, and they're intimidated by the pit. Don't be that card counter and you'll be surprised what might happen.

 

[rrwoods]

This is a great post. A lot of counters have an adversarial relationship with casino staff, which is generally appropriate given the nature of the relationship, but you'd be surprised with what you can get away with when the staff likes you. I'm a low-level guy, so obviously my experiences only go so far, but I've escaped heat-free in many situations where I feel I shouldn't have, and I often attribute that to the way that I interact with the pit and other casino personnel. One of my favorite instances is playing heads-up at a top-notch DD game at a notoriously sweaty downtown joint while joking around with the boss, and old-timer that definitely knew the angles. He was sad to see me go after a good-length session with a large (for this place) win. Card counters aren't friendly, and they're intimidated by the pit. Don't be that card counter and you'll be surprised what might happen.

yes

 

[creeping panther]

How nice!

In all seriousness, I'd suggest learning how to be nice to casino employees.
Way too many people here look at them as the enemy. They are not.
The pit boss is the gatekeeper to all the casino has to offer-steakhouses, buffets, suites, ect, ect. A friendly dealer may forget to take your losing bet, or help in any number of ways.
Learn how to befriend these folks and you'll get far better results than learning an indice for a play that occurs once every three hundred hands.

Shad, how very nice of you I am very impressed in this change of attitude:grin:

I think you must have taken me up on my advice of a couple months ago.....remember.....to go to the Doctor for that enlarged Prostate and to also find a gentle laxative:laugh:

CP

 

[Machinist]

Cp

CP we are on the down hill slide for winter..... It has been brutal, i actually heard birds chirping this morning......Let's play nice..... Smiles everyone, smiles

Machinist