Flashing Aces

zengrifter

Banned
Sucker said:
This happens to be EXCELLENT advice. It's not only not worth the effort, it has a huge potential to be counter-productive.
I can't help counting when HC'ing, and sometimes have used a 1-2 spread, but its counterproductive since the counting could spoil it if I got pulled up for it.

Stalker shared with me that he "can count" but he never would because he'd risk getting barred and later miss out on an HC opportunity. zg
 

jack.jackson

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aslan said:
I have read the tables, but never memorized them. I think Brock got it right, hit for S17 and stand for H17. But I'm thinking you would stand in both cases if the count were =>+4. (Two tens will bust the dealer and one ten will bust you.)
A little fotnote to remember about the hole-card strategy(for those who dont know it) is to stand on your stiff VS any dealer stiff and always hit A2-A6 VS any dealer hand. This is probably more than 50% of the hands.
 

aslan

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jack said:
A little fotnote to remember about the hole-card strategy(for those who dont know it) is to stand on your stiff VS any dealer stiff and always hit A2-A6 VS any dealer hand. This is probably more than 50% of the hands.
You're a sight for sore eyes! Welcome back, stranger!
 

Sucker

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jack said:
A little fotnote to remember about the hole-card strategy(for those who dont know it) is to stand on your stiff VS any dealer stiff and always hit A2-A6 VS any dealer hand. This is probably more than 50% of the hands.
This must be a misstatement on your part.
The first part is correct, but not the part about hitting A2-A6 VS any dealer hand. If the dealer has a big stiff (12-16) the correct HC strategy is to double ALL soft hands including A-8 and even A-9. The only time you would (and should) deviate from this strategy is for cover purposes only, such as when the dealer has a ten showing and a six in the hole. Soft doubling against a dealer's big upcard is almost a CONFESSION that you're HC'ing. The other soft double that I routinely avoid is doubling A-9, even though it IS the correct play. In my experience, that play brings more than twice as much heat as splitting 10's.
 

zengrifter

Banned
Sucker said:
Soft doubling against a dealer's big upcard is almost a CONFESSION that you're HC'ing. The other soft double that I routinely avoid is doubling A-9, even though it IS the correct play. In my experience, that play brings more than twice as much heat as splitting 10's.
When HCing its always good to act like a drunken fool and then you can do anything. zg
 

aslan

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zengrifter said:
When HCing its always good to act like a drunken fool and then you can do anything. zg
For a one night stand, yes, but I can't see how you would be able to get much longevity out of such a ploy. Wouldn't it look funny that this drunk repeatedly beats this same dealer day after day with outlandish, low percentage plays?
 

zengrifter

Banned
aslan said:
For a one night stand, yes, but I can't see how you would be able to get much longevity out of such a ploy. Wouldn't it look funny that this drunk repeatedly beats this same dealer day after day with outlandish, low percentage plays?
Gotta rotate the players.
What the LVHCM types do is use different BPs to bet the big chips, typically from first base. zg
 

aslan

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zengrifter said:
Gotta rotate the players.
What the LVHCM types do is use different BPs to bet the big chips, typically from first base. zg
Sure, with a team you have more cover, but you can't have a drunk at first base every night. lol
 

zengrifter

Banned
Amarillo Slim's classic quote applies to casinos as well as people:
"You can milk a cow for years, but skin it only once."
 

jack.jackson

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aslan said:
You're a sight for sore eyes! Welcome back, stranger!
Good to see you too, o' friend. After getting My DL back in July, i finally found a job and quit drinking for the most part. Its good yo have a break for the Winter.

Sucker said:
This must be a misstatement on your part.
The first part is correct, but not the part about hitting A2-A6 VS any dealer hand. If the dealer has a big stiff (12-16) the correct HC strategy is to double ALL soft hands including A-8 and even A-9. The only time you would (and should) deviate from this strategy is for cover purposes only, such as when the dealer has a ten showing and a six in the hole. Soft doubling against a dealer's big upcard is almost a CONFESSION that you're HC'ing. The other soft double that I routinely avoid is doubling A-9, even though it IS the correct play. In my experience, that play brings more than twice as much heat as splitting 10's.
Ah good catch. So double A2-A6 when dealer has a stiffhand, otherwise hit. But double any soft-hand VS dealer stiff. Tx for making that clear for me and on the behalf to others as well.
 
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