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Some of you are right. Once you pass NYC limit, it is upstate. Upper state is the part of New York State closer to Canada than NYC.
http://www.hometownforums.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000193.html
http://www.hometownforums.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000193.html
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Genius,
If you read your url reference closely, it does not support your above assertion. It states that to NY City dwellers, everything above the city is upstate, whereas to others in the state, upstate refers to only that portion of NY that is above Albany. It does not address upperstate.
:grin::whip: If anything, the inference is that upper NY is the same as upstate NY, but I've never heard anyone call it that {uppperstate NY). Do we have anyone from Rochester or other points north of NYC, and not western NY, who can weigh in?
If you read your url reference closely, it does not support your above assertion. It states that to NY City dwellers, everything above the city is upstate, whereas to others in the state, upstate refers to only that portion of NY that is above Albany. It does not address upperstate.
:grin::whip: If anything, the inference is that upper NY is the same as upstate NY, but I've never heard anyone call it that {uppperstate NY). Do we have anyone from Rochester or other points north of NYC, and not western NY, who can weigh in?
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aslan said:
Genius,
If you read your url reference closely, it does not support your above assertion. It states that to NY City dwellers, everything above the city is upstate, whereas to others in the state, upstate refers to only that portion of NY that is above Albany. It does not address upperstate.:grin::whip: If anything, the inference is that upper NY is the same as upstate NY, but I've never heard anyone call it that {uppperstate NY). Do we have anyone from Rochester or other points north of NYC, and not western NY, who can weigh in?
If you read your url reference closely, it does not support your above assertion. It states that to NY City dwellers, everything above the city is upstate, whereas to others in the state, upstate refers to only that portion of NY that is above Albany. It does not address upperstate.
:grin::whip: If anything, the inference is that upper NY is the same as upstate NY, but I've never heard anyone call it that {uppperstate NY). Do we have anyone from Rochester or other points north of NYC, and not western NY, who can weigh in?
That is the first Google entry. Someone asked the same question back in 2003. If you want more answers, you should Google "Upper State New York" yourself.
It is a common expression. OTOH, upper state New York is not, nor is upper state Virginia.
Until you or someone can show otherwise, I'll stick with the popular expressions, upstate New York and northern Virginia, as well as, northern California, Texas panhandle, Florida panhandle, and northern Minnesota. The only upper that comes to mind is Upper Peninsula, but I'm sure there are more.
Aslan, Lower Slobovia :joker:
Until you or someone can show otherwise, I'll stick with the popular expressions, upstate New York and northern Virginia, as well as, northern California, Texas panhandle, Florida panhandle, and northern Minnesota. The only upper that comes to mind is Upper Peninsula, but I'm sure there are more.
Aslan, Lower Slobovia :joker: