I live about 30 miles from Ho Chunk and I rarely go there because the games are not very good. They have 2 deck with no DAS and D hard 9 10 11 only with normally about 1 full deck cut off. Every so often you may find 60-65% pen. Also, the table max is usually 10x the min ($10-$100 @ $25- $250). I don't pay to much to the 6 deck games, but I believe they are double any first 2 and DAS and hit soft 17. Wonging is virtually impossible on weekends. Also, I think the only tables with limits above $100 are in the high stakes room, which has 2 tables (1 2 deck @ 1 6 deck). I have spread $10-$80 on 2 deck before with no heat, but normally play short sessions of about 1 hour, so I have never pushed it. I just play every so often for practice and to stay on the mailing list for promos! Majestic pines in Black River Falls offers much better pen on their 2 deck game, but I think the limits are now $15-$100. I have played there much more often and never had any heat spreading from minimumto maximum. Hope this helps. Post any more questions ASAP, as I leave for Vegas at 8 AM on Sunday. PS The one nice thing about Ho Chunk is that they have 2 seperate pits, so at least you can bounce from pit to pit a little especially after midnight or so.
I play there quite a bit. I play at $5 min $50 max 6D tables. Dealer hits on soft 17, no surrender. I have had good results even though I play small. Once I build up my bankroll I will move up to a higher tables. Penetration varies, but ave. is probably 1.5 decks. Not much heat, but I play small. I keep a pretty low profile at the $5 table and no one pays very close attention to me (I think). Never seen anyone backed off yet, but probably not frequented by many good counters. Good place. Beatable. shteve
Checked out Ho-Chunk a couple times last week, and again today. It seems like the previous poster's information is still accurate. I observed 6 deck games with 55%-80% penetration. The most alert dealers seemed to consistently cut 70%-75%, so that is probably the policy. One particular dealer had a great 80% cut one shoe, and a couple shoes later cut at about 55%. Dealer hits soft 17, DAS, resplit. Split Aces just get one card. Didn't notice heat spreading $5-$50, sometimes nearly $100 when I was sure I could get away with it (was losing, proclaiming "all in.)
The 2 deck game had horrible rules and penetration slightly over 50%. H17, no DAS, double only 10/11. Shuffle tracking seems impossible. They had auto shufflers on some tables and seemed pretty overkill in their manual shuffling.
If anyone wants to meet there sometime I would be up for it. I am a new counter and would be interested in meeting some other APers.
This is ten years later. I have played at ho chunk quite a bit but then I only learned how play about a year ago. I don't see to many big winners or back offs. Never have heard a complaint except from people who play with no strategy and think they can win. There was a mid shoe entry rule (no betting higher than table minimum until a new shoe)for all the tables but now that has been lifted on all 10 dollar and under tables. On the 25 dollar tables you cannot start in the middle of a shoe unless no one is playing at the table. The pit crews all seem to be pretty friendly and I have noot seen them eyeballing anyone unless it's a hot looking babe.