How to adapt BS?

[Guynoire]

Hitting a hard 16 vs a 6 is one of the dumbest moves you can make using basic strategy. Using standard card counting I've never seen an index for it and I'd think it's so ridiculously negative that it will in all practicality never occur in a 4 deck shoe. Therefore I think it's safe to say that just using the information of the cards already played, as he claims, there will never occur a situation in which the best strategy is to hit.

If he is using some sort of sequencing or shuffle tracking or some other technique to know there is a high probability of a low card occuring then this begs the question, why didn't he double down? Now I haven't done any math so don't take this as definitive proof but I can't see there ever being a situation in a 4 deck game where the best strategy is to hit a hard 16 vs a 6 and not stand or double.

 

[Allecc]

I agree. Lets just agree on another thing, the video is fake. Even if it isnt lets just say it is.

So why didnt he DD? Except for the statment above, maybe it wasnt aloved?

 

[Stylee]

Well he does say "I've got 11 which means I can DD". I would assume this means he can only DD on 11. And the 16 vs. 6 wasn't at the beginning of the shoe so I don't see why this couldn't be possible. Basic strategy is the best way to play each hand having no knowledge of the remaining cards (or the dealt cards) I don't know which cards were dealt but he claims to so I don't see how this would be proof that the video is fake.

 

[Guynoire]

I can't seem to find the index, which probably means that it is so low that it will never happen in reality, but does anyone know what type of count is needed to hit a 16 v 6 and if it's even possible to have in a 4 deck game assuming normal to good penetration?

Also there are other parts of the video that I just don't trust such when the players say things like he won too often. Not even perfect conditionally based basic strategy would increase your hand win percentage very much. I think it's either positive variance or he just staged the whole thing.

 

[jack.jackson]

I can't seem to find the index, which probably means that it is so low that it will never happen in reality, but does anyone know what type of count is needed to hit a 16 v 6 and if it's even possible to have in a 4 deck game assuming normal to good penetration?

Also there are other parts of the video that I just don't trust such when the players say things like he won too often. Not even perfect conditionally based basic strategy would increase your hand win percentage very much. I think it's either positive variance or he just staged the whole thing.

Its -21, for the A02, count, about the same for hitting a pair of AAs vs. 6.

More than likely there will have to be less than 1 deck remaining (when you cross the threshold of multiplying the RC, opposed to dividing it)to reach a count this low.

See kcs cdca program.

 

[Allecc]

I can't seem to find the index, which probably means that it is so low that it will never happen in reality, but does anyone know what type of count is needed to hit a 16 v 6 and if it's even possible to have in a 4 deck game assuming normal to good penetration?

I think we're forgetting something here. If he is memorizing all the cards, hopefully he's not just using some counting system.

 

[NoNeedForLuck]

No I wont use any counting systems. I will have to figure out how to know when to hit/stand/double/split while playing on my own. (probably using probability calculations).

 

[moo321]

I can remember 3 decks so far but my recalling speed is a little slow so I will work on that. I assume I will able to recall much faster after a week or three, gotta work on that. Then I will try to learn calculations and implement them in game. I know it will take me at least a month to get this calculations down and I will still be slow but then again, with more pratctice I will know estimated values pretty fast. I have a lot of time so Im practising around 5 hours a day for last week and I have another 2 months to do that. (Im so bored here in London. All I do is cooking, studying blackjack, hitting a gym, doing my hobby and sleep a lot).

Yes, I have a good memory but every memory can be greatly improved if you put it into practice, like anything else.

Thank you for all replays, they were really helpfull. Good luck guys.

PS: Taking a break after one hour of learning greatly improves your learning curve

Don't worry about shoes. You should only be playing single or maybe double deck.

 

[NoNeedForLuck]

Anyone knows where could I find 1 or double-dec blackjack in london? I think I will soon ready for 2 decks. But as far as I heard there are no more 1 or 2 deck games. Only 4 or more.

 

[callipygian]

I will have to figure out how to know when to hit/stand/double/split while playing on my own. (probably using probability calculations).

Why would you do this when people have done this a million times?

 

[NoNeedForLuck]

I explained this in card counting thread and came to conclusion to use card counting strategy for BJ games with 4 or more decks. But since there are no 2 deck games to be found I will always use a card counting strategy.

 

[Sonny]

Even in single-deck and double-deck games a standard card counting system will be more practical and probably more profitable than a brute force memory system. There's a good reason people don't use systems like that.

-Sonny-

 

[EasyRhino]

If you were able to calculate in real time what the optimal play was based on the deck composition... then you'd have "computer perfect" play, which would be totally sweet and I think a 5 or 10% advantage. But that would make merely memorizing every card played look like child's play.

 

[MrMaster]

I just remembered a story I heard from a magician at a show.
The magician needed assistance for a trick and invited someone on the stage. He was a memory expert! The magician then started to tell a story about the guy and that he could memorize 6 decks of cards. He had travelled around the world trying to play in casinos, but he was barred everywhere. The last place he went to was Sun city in South Africa, there he was told once again that he was not allowed to play blackjack. He tooks his decks and threw them away and went home.
It's a while since I heard this, the next time I see him I will ask for more details.