How to Beat Casino Surveillance by Vinny DeCarlo

Lonesome Gambler

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What's the word on this one? Has anyone read it yet? The detailed reports for specific Vegas joints makes it pretty appealing, but $80 for an e-book make this one to think over before purchasing. It has a decent review on Snyder's forum and Max Rubin wrote the foreword, but I wonder if anyone here has had a chance to read it? Apparently the price goes up to $100 after June 1st.
 

Finn Dog

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Haven't read it, but D.V. Cellini's A Card Counter's Guide to Casino Surveillance is a classic and is about half the cost.

The casino-specific information of the new book is quite intriguing, however. Would guess there's nothing much new in this book that's not in Cellini's book--or been discussed on this forum--with the exception of the aforementioned casino-specific info; which if still accurate, would be more than worth the price.

Regards,

FD
 
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Finn Dog

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The reports are interesting indeed. However, I'd imagine it would be best to view them as a rear-view mirror. That is, assume any deficiency made public has since been corrected. Thereby, most likely rendering their worth of little value. Nice marketing angle, however.

Nonetheless, I think I'll add it to my library (as I love this kinda stuff)!

Regards,

FD
 
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21forme

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Lonesome Gambler said:
In his review, Snyder says that this is the best book on the subject since Cellini. I think the primary value is, like you said, in the individual reports. Here's a sample report, which is pretty interesting.
From the report:
Never, never, never allow the dealer to color you up to purple. Reason? You do not want to be in possession of purple cheques ($500). First, these cheques draw too much heat when you try to cash them in or even play them.

Seems fairly impractical if you're playing a green or higher unit and/or have a decent win.
 

Pro21

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This makes me think he is talking about a Coast property. 500 chips are very tough to get rid of there.

When they ask to color you up just give the same answer when they ask for a players card... NO.
 
21forme said:
From the report:
Never, never, never allow the dealer to color you up to purple. Reason? You do not want to be in possession of purple cheques ($500). First, these cheques draw too much heat when you try to cash them in or even play them.

Seems fairly impractical if you're playing a green or higher unit and/or have a decent win.
I don't fully agree with that either. Purple chips or pumpkins at the cage are an unexceptional thing in East Coast stores or the Strip. But betting a purple chip is a different story. That attracts attention anywhere.
 

HockeXpert

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Lonesome Gambler said:
What's the word on this one? Has anyone read it yet? The detailed reports for specific Vegas joints makes it pretty appealing, but $80 for an e-book make this one to think over before purchasing. It has a decent review on Snyder's forum and Max Rubin wrote the foreword, but I wonder if anyone here has had a chance to read it? Apparently the price goes up to $100 after June 1st.
LG:

On SW's site (I think Ken's ok with me giving SW a nod) a member reviewed this ebook and said it did have store-specific information of value but that some of the info (not coloring up to purple at MGM for example) was dated. The reviewer stated that the book only would benefit a plyer playing at least 2x400.

If the book gives you the liberty to spread a little more agressively or helps you from getting a quick tap, then it is well worth $80 (this is not an endorsement for the author).

HockeXpert
 
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