I can answer any clumping question here.

Nightshifter

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#81
KewlJ said:
While I don't have this machine, I know who does. But I am rather certain, this person will not be posting any "demo" on any forum. Doing so invites all kinds of trouble for owning or possessing a machine illegally.

On top of that, this person is a top AP and his interest isn't educating or warning other players as mine initially was. His interest is solely using this information to gain an advantage.
BJgenius007 said:
I think after eight years, my study, experience and experiments on ASM clumping finally paid off. Actually my ev on ASM is now greater than that on hand-shuffle BJ. You can ask questions regarding this topic and I will do my best to answer them.
Hey BJG! Any updates on your observations?
 

BJgenius007

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#82
Nightshifter said:
Hey BJG! Any updates on your observations?
I became Spidierman with great 6th sense. Actually I played more ASM than hand-shuffled recently. After Covid 19 reopening, the close-by casino began to add face cards and remove aces from 6D decks. Nothing much. Just remove four aces and add small amount of face cards from six deck. Sometimes four. Sometimes eight. Just enough to make TC always negative. For ASM, all cards are there. Once I accept the fact that there are a clump of aces, there is a clump of face cards and there is a clump of small cards at ASM table, I can play accordingly because each clump will appear only once in shoe. And the likelihood for clumped shoe is 75% for the weekend and only 25% for the weekdays. So I just play more on weekdays.

If in early shoe, I encountered a first clump, I just assume I will encounter the other two clumps in late of the shoe and reduced my spread from 10 to 1 to like 4 to 1 for the remaining of the shoe. Reducing bet spread is a life saver for me. (Another life saver for me is that I only sit at the third base and the table must be full or almost full. And my play decision is based on the clump pattern, not TC when I can see clearly see everybody's two cards are either all smalls, or all faces, or a lot of aces in that round. So as the third base player, I can make the best decision as a clump is in progress. Normally I don't care where I sit at hand-shuffled table. But I almost always win when I play ASM table as a third base player at a full table. Full table is my requirement to play. I found if I played with only two or three persons and cannot see the clumping pattern, my result is negative in that condition. So I learned to avoid it now.)

I now show positive result at ASM tables even half of times I have 4 to 1 spread, compared to old days I trust casinos don't cheat and always spread 10 to 1 according to TC, then had negative ev for years from 2014 to 2019. (Maybe even in 2013, but then I did not notice my result at ASM tables are different from hand-shuffled and did not separates results into two different group.) But as I said, most ploppies now don't play ASM because they always lose. So most of them now switched to hand-shuffled tables only. But after a while, casino lost enough, they began to add face cards and remove ace cards. In the end, casinos open to make money. They will find a way to make money. I just don't know how many casinos take the chance that can lose their gambling license. For me, because I side count aces, the dealer has deep penetration like 5.5D out of 6D. sometimes less than 20 cards left, I can guess how many aces are removed after playing three or four shoes.
 
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Nightshifter

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#85
Barona Casino is always in clump mode. The most prevalent clump is A,2,3,4,9s … this will go on for hours. I’ve seen 25 chip betters lose 2500 to 3500 dollars at a rate of 20 percent house advantage on average. The two deck games frequently hit plus 16 and still dump low runs with neutral cards. Then a clump of tens comes with an 8 or 9 and nearly everyone pushes. Most of the aces are sorted with low cards. So when you split aces you get low cards and the dealer almost always pats. You have to determine the average size of the clumps which gives you an idea how long the run lasts until it changes over to another clump. You can profile the shuffler if you gather enough information at different times, but all the shufflers were using the same sorting algorithm... at Barona that is. You can play a clump card strategy which is more like card predicting or you can go by the count and use basic strategy with play deviations based on TC. You just gotta know when to use the appropriate strategy. Card sequencing really helps because the clumps tend to linger… and you can create markers. You can also see the edge sorting produced from the shuffler (inherent in the way is shuffles) and you want to cut the deck where it’s real tight and even and stay away from the chunked parts. I can pretty much cut into a clump of 10s every time when the shuffler is in manipulation mode ;) Just a tip for those who want to exploit at certain casinos. Incorporating these strategies and not solely relying on card counting has reversed my losses considerably lately.
 

beating vegas

Well-Known Member
#86
If your going to make this claim you better have real proof from an objective method.
Thats just for your theory.
Then you need proof from an independent creditable respected professional to rule out bias.

The more outrages the claim the more evidence is needed to support it.

As of this moment there is no legitimate study to support this theory.

it’s no different then the martingale nonsense.
 
#87
BJgenius007 said:
I became Spidierman with great 6th sense. Actually I played more ASM than hand-shuffled recently. After Covid 19 reopening, the close-by casino began to add face cards and remove aces from 6D decks. Nothing much. Just remove four aces and add small amount of face cards from six deck. Sometimes four. Sometimes eight. Just enough to make TC always negative. For ASM, all cards are there. Once I accept the fact that there are a clump of aces, there is a clump of face cards and there is a clump of small cards at ASM table, I can play accordingly because each clump will appear only once in shoe. And the likelihood for clumped shoe is 75% for the weekend and only 25% for the weekdays. So I just play more on weekdays.

If in early shoe, I encountered a first clump, I just assume I will encounter the other two clumps in late of the shoe and reduced my spread from 10 to 1 to like 4 to 1 for the remaining of the shoe. Reducing bet spread is a life saver for me. (Another life saver for me is that I only sit at the third base and the table must be full or almost full. And my play decision is based on the clump pattern, not TC when I can see clearly see everybody's two cards are either all smalls, or all faces, or a lot of aces in that round. So as the third base player, I can make the best decision as a clump is in progress. Normally I don't care where I sit at hand-shuffled table. But I almost always win when I play ASM table as a third base player at a full table. Full table is my requirement to play. I found if I played with only two or three persons and cannot see the clumping pattern, my result is negative in that condition. So I learned to avoid it now.)

I now show positive result at ASM tables even half of times I have 4 to 1 spread, compared to old days I trust casinos don't cheat and always spread 10 to 1 according to TC, then had negative ev for years from 2014 to 2019. (Maybe even in 2013, but then I did not notice my result at ASM tables are different from hand-shuffled and did not separates results into two different group.) But as I said, most ploppies now don't play ASM because they always lose. So most of them now switched to hand-shuffled tables only. But after a while, casino lost enough, they began to add face cards and remove ace cards. In the end, casinos open to make money. They will find a way to make money. I just don't know how many casinos take the chance that can lose their gambling license. For me, because I side count aces, the dealer has deep penetration like 5.5D out of 6D. sometimes less than 20 cards left, I can guess how many aces are removed after playing three or four shoes.
LOL!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D Oh man! That was funny and sad same time. Bless your heart. But hey if works for you and making you money, cheers. I salute.
 
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