i need help

#1
im a new card counter i guess i mean i have been counting for about 6 months using Jstats system i feel like such a tool listening to him i got really good at counting his way clearing decks in about 20 sec but i need help finding a new way to count to dominate i have the time to work on my counting now i just need to find one that will not be to hard of a transition from 2-9 +1 10's +2 and side counting the aces dont think im some dummy for following him it just happens haha please help
 

enjoy.b

Well-Known Member
#2
Jstats

Hi, im not familiar with your actual system, Jstat, can you explain more?
if you use a side count you should be able to use any system level 1 or 2, with most of them is not worth use a side count, Hi-Lo is the most used , and a lot of question about it are already anwsered-studied in Don S... book Black Jack Attack
I use a level 2, Mentor (maybe the only one in this forum)
http://www.qfit.com/card-counting.htm
take a look at this link
ask more if you need it
Enjoy.b
 

iCountNTrack

Well-Known Member
#3
newkid20 said:
im a new card counter i guess i mean i have been counting for about 6 months using Jstats system i feel like such a tool listening to him i got really good at counting his way clearing decks in about 20 sec but i need help finding a new way to count to dominate i have the time to work on my counting now i just need to find one that will not be to hard of a transition from 2-9 +1 10's +2 and side counting the aces dont think im some dummy for following him it just happens haha please help
If use JSTAT's systems you WILL constantly be making donations to the casino. Why not donate it to a charitable organization instead?
 

cpage727

Well-Known Member
#4
iCountNTrack said:
If use JSTAT's systems you WILL constantly be making donations to the casino. Why not donate it to a charitable organization instead?

I'm a charitable organiztion of one
 

dj56

Active Member
#6
I use the ZEN it is a level 2 count and my fiance is trying the KO system and the KO is a level 1 and very simple.
 

FLASH1296

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#7

I fully agree that Zen is great; and K.O., (for shoes at least), is quite satisfactory.

It is best we do not bother discussing any system that counts nines (9's) as low cards.​
:whip:
 

enjoy.b

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#8
9s?

FLASH1296 said:

I fully agree that Zen is great; and K.O., (for shoes at least), is quite satisfactory.

It is best we do not bother discussing any system that counts nines (9's) as low cards.​
:whip:
Any particular reason for that, i mean Mentor have better BC than Zen.
 

FLASH1296

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#9

The Mentor Count adds a tag for the 9 while altering the tag for the trey, making it slightly more difficult to use and more prone to errors.

On page 191 of Blackjack Blue Book, Mentor's creator, Fred Renzey, admits that "there is no perceptible difference between" the two counts.

I do not accept that Mentor is superior to Zen.
 

enjoy.b

Well-Known Member
#12
difference

FLASH1296 said:

The Mentor Count adds a tag for the 9 while altering the tag for the trey, making it slightly more difficult to use and more prone to errors.

On page 191 of Blackjack Blue Book, Mentor's creator, Fred Renzey, admits that "there is no perceptible difference between" the two counts.

I do not accept that Mentor is superior to Zen.
My friend, in a pure intelectual way (no practical ) 2 system with almost the same BC PC and IC will have differences in Score against differents games and rules 1D to 8D, DAS no DAS H17 S17 etc ..
Using CVDATA and CVCX in the casino where I play the highest Score is for Halves and in second place Mentor (I include all Levels 1 to 3)
Just for curiosity when the game was 1 or 2 Decks Zen was better than Mentor with standard rules.
a greeting from a friend in another country :)
 
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