IJ's in Palm Springs Area

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VC

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I recently was in the Palm Springs area for a few days and made it to three of the local IJ's (Injin Joints) in the area. Based on what I experienced and saw, I strongly advise to avoid the following IJ's:

Fantasy Springs: Had one $10 min DD game. Penetration was horrible 50%. 6 deckers were at most 4 deck penetration.

Agua Caliente: Mostly auto shufflers, a few 6 deck shoe games for $10 min but again were lucky to get 4 decks out of the shoe.

Casino Morongo: You are a Moron if you Go there. The worst of the worst. No table less than $15 min. Auto shufflers everywhere. 6 deck shoe games only dealt 3 decks then shuffle. I refused to play at this IJ.

The counter paranoia at these IJ's, especially Moron-Go is amazing. I guess the ploppies that populate these places make up for all the shuffling that goes on.

Are there any decent IJ's in the Southern California for blackjack or should I just give up and stick with Vegas, etc.? Thanks.
 
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Victoria

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off the beaten path

In Riverside County, not that far from Palm Springs you can find this casino by driving half hour past the middle of nowhere and then getting lost and you should pull right into the parking lot. Three ugly bubble buildings and a real locals type place. No hotel, no spa, bad food and real nice people.
DD game is worthless.
Shoe game is hand shuffled, 6 deck, s-17, LSR, DA, DAS, but no resplit on aces.
Penetration varies a ton and it is key for this place.
Max bet is $500.
With the right dealer, it is probably the best shoe game in California.
Soboba

Victoria
 
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KennilworthKid

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Palm Springs

I was there over the Memorial Day weekend, and I do not agree with all of your facts...

One needs to mention that the Fantasy Springs is mostly a Mindplay shop, indeed over 2/3's of the tables use that system...On the other hand, the mindplay tables are for low stakes, and there was always a $2 minimum, 6 deck game going...and generally all shoes had from 1.75 to 1.5 decks cut off, with S17 and DAS. I never saw any table minimum of more than $25...and the $25 minimum games were usually the 2 deck games with pen in the 55 to 60% range, with S17 and DAS, and no mindplay. All tables there were handshuffled...

i visited three other casinos in Palm Springs, and Fantasy was the only one with Mindplay.

I did not see any CSM at the Agua, and I played a 6 deck game there for a short time, with S17, DAS...$10 minimums though seem to be the rule now, up from $5 minimums in 2004...my dealer handshuffled and plugged the cut-offs in three places...also the dealer shuffled each pair of grabs several times thus making ace-tracking very difficult in my opinion. And the pen from my dealer was way better than 2 decks...This was the second time i've visited this casino, and based on what I've seen the pen varies by dealer, so i think i was lucky this time.

The SPA is a very nice casino, and the limits were higher there, with $25 & $50 minimums the norm on a weekday morning. I saw a double deck game, S17 with D10 & D11 only, but the shuffle card set less than 1/2 from the bottom. I just was walking through, did not play, but I don't recall seeing any CSM's

The Spotlight29, which is closeby Fantasy Springs, had redchip games...none that would be considered great, but S17 games...I recall the pen on the double deck game was around 55-60 cards, handshuffled or autoshuffled i don't recall, but certainly not CSM, and not FAK2...I did see a 6/5 single deck game.

I did not see the two other casinos there, but the Sobota is one that I understand has some good rules and perhaps is worth looking at.
 
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VC

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Mindplay

Thanks for the info. How does the Mindplay system work? Can it actually determine a running count for a table? This was the first time I saw it in action at Fantasy Springs.
 
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rainman

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my observation/correction *LINK*

Just wanted to make some corrections and express my observations. I agree that Morongo games suck since they cut off 3 decks....but I remember them using 8 decks and not 6....still unplayable unless you like to back count for 3 hours and then place 2 bets.

Spotlight 29 burns 6 cards instead of 1 whenever they start a new shoe and I remember them sweating me like crazy...anyone else had the same experience there or did I just happen to be there a day after they had some card counting seminar? Also-watch the dealers there: I've noticed quite a few payoff mistakes in the house's favor.
 
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Victoria

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the count is child's play

Mindplay: How about knowing the order of the cards yet to be dealt. Imagine what you could do with that information.
Check out some of the old posts.
 
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Tom

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Moron-a-go,go

"The counter paranoia at these IJ's, especially Moron-Go is amazing. I guess the ploppies that populate these places make up for all the shuffling that goes on."

The only morons I see are the casinos that shuffle up on all those ploppies....hee,hee,those dumb*sses are losing money,oh well now let us move on to better logic.
 
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