Is it ever acceptable to...

[grrrrrowl]

split 6's as part of an act?

 

[bjcount]

split 6's as part of an act?

How would splitting 6's be an act unless it's a foolish one against an 8,9 10, or A?

BJC

 

[callipygian]

Yes, you should split 6's against dealer 2-6 if you want to act smart.

 

[grrrrrowl]

against a 10 or something to make it look like you don't know what you're doing

 

[callipygian]

against a 10 or something to make it look like you don't know what you're doing

The problem with making it look like you don't know what you're doing is that it often involves not knowing what you're doing.

Pick a cheap play to use as cover, like standing hard 16 vs. dealer T or doubling hard 9 vs. dealer 2, or standing on hard 12 vs. dealer 2-3, not expensive plays like splitting 66 vs. dealer T. The advantage of the plays I listed is that they're all correct playing decisions at your higher bets anyway.

Better yet, don't use cover plays at all.

 

[bjcount]

against a 10 or something to make it look like you don't know what you're doing

Here's the EV for a 6d game, 6D, S17, DOA, DAS, RSA=0, RSP=4

Hand	    Standing	    Hitting	     Doubling	    Splitting   
6,6 vs T	-0.54278	-0.38195	-0.79829	-0.70771

Just play smart or donate your money to us.

BJC

 

[QFIT]

Splitting 6s against a ten is so stupid, they may think you are acting stupid. OTOH, I have seen people that think they HAVE to split pairs.

 

[SD Padres]

split 6's as part of an act?

There are less expensive cover plays. Search the threads on this site.

 

[shadroch]

If you are looking for an act- try this.
Get the pit boss involved in conversation. find anything to agree with and put your hand up and say "high 5". Leave your hand up until he follows thru. Do it again a minute or so later. He'll avoid your table the rest of your session.

 

[SleightOfHand]

If you are looking for an act- try this.
Get the pit boss involved in conversation. find anything to agree with and put your hand up and say "high 5". Leave your hand up until he follows thru. Do it again a minute or so later. He'll avoid your table the rest of your session.

lolol

 

[bj bob]

against a 10 or something to make it look like you don't know what you're doing

First of all 6,6 doesn't come up that often so you may not see it for a couple of hours. That being said, if you really need to grandstand with a pair of 6's, try doing it against a 3 or 4 up. That should cost you little in the way of EV.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

First of all 6,6 doesn't come up that often so you may not see it for a couple of hours. That being said, if you really need to grandstand with a pair of 6's, try doing it against a 3 or 4 up. That should cost you little in the way of EV.

Actually, wouldn't that not cost you any EV at all?

 

[standard toaster]

Actually, wouldn't that not cost you any EV at all?

I believe it would cost you a small amount. Splitting 6's is a better move as you know. So just playing it off as if it was a hard 12 is -ev.. because you had a hand that could have allowed you a much better move... right? Someone else will come around and explain it better

 

[Blue Efficacy]

I believe it would cost you a small amount. Splitting 6's is a better move as you know. So just playing it off as if it was a hard 12 is -ev.. because you had a hand that could have allowed you a much better move... right? Someone else will come around and explain it better

Exactly. So splitting won't cost you any EV.

How much EV does doubling a hard 12 vs dealer 6 cost?

 

[sagefr0g]

Exactly. So splitting won't cost you any EV.

How much EV does doubling a hard 12 vs dealer 6 cost?

according to k_c's tdca:

 

[bj bob]

according to k_c's tdca:

Yo Fr0gman! Could you run the same setup with 6,6 v 3/4 Stand v. split so we can all see the exact difference in EV? You da man! (amphibian).

 

[callipygian]

Get the pit boss involved in conversation. find anything to agree with and put your hand up and say "high 5". Leave your hand up until he follows thru. Do it again a minute or so later. He'll avoid your table the rest of your session.

:laugh: My friend did something similar when he was getting heat; his schtick is that he pretends not to speak English (only Polish). When a female floor manager came over and asked him nosy questions, he replied with a thick Polish accent, "Thank you, you are very pretty." And then he winked at her. She didn't drop by again.

 

[bj bob]

:laugh: My friend did something similar when he was getting heat; his schtick is that he pretends not to speak English (only Polish). When a female floor manager came over and asked him nosy questions, he replied with a thick Polish accent, "Thank you, you are very pretty." And then he winked at her. She didn't drop by again.

That would have been even funnier if he did that to a floorman. :grin::grin:

 

[KOLAN]

all times split 66 if you know small card is more))))

 

[bjcount]

Yo Fr0gman! Could you run the same setup with 6,6 v 3/4 Stand v. split so we can all see the exact difference in EV? You da man! (amphibian).

BJBob:
(6D, H17, DOA, DAS, RSA=0, RSP=4)
Ev = -0.614755% | Var = 23.995893%
data provided courtesy of Cacarulo


Hand Standing Hitting Doubling Splitting Probability
6,6 vs 4 -0.19688 -0.2103 -0.4206 0.010624 0.00044
6,6 vs 3 -0.24049 -0.23222 -0.46444 -0.09282 0.00044

Splitting has the only + result

and just for comparison purposes with fr0g's sim:
T,2 vs 6 -0.12148 -0.17057 -0.34114 -------- 0.003677

fr0g' sim come pretty close.

BJC