Korea update needed please

San

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jerseyshop101 said:
Always use your card at 7luck. I played the other day for almost 5 hours and was credited 52,000 won. They now issue the debit cards right at the cashier cage.

I've witnessed some players receiving 10% "cash back" checks (from their previous losses) right at the table from the casino host. I was told that this is totally separate from their players card comps. Supposedly this is for their higher level players, but I will check into this.
10% loss rebate is quite common among the casinos in Korea. As far as I know, Walker Hill have similar policy. It's for BACARRAT higher level players. They need to lose at least 30 million won in a trip to get the rebate.

I'm not sure if the rebate is also for BJ players.
 

Moneyboy

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I am planning a 2-3 day visit to Seoul soon. I will only be in Korea only to play Blackjack. Has any conditions or games changed in Seoul? How are the games and conditions at the Incehon Airport area? I may consider staying around Incehon Airport the first or the last day to play. I have only been to 7 luck Milennium Seoul Hilton and Walker Hill. I recall 7 luck Milennium Seoul Hilton to be very crowded and I could not get a good game going at all when I went. Walker Hill was not as busy but the games were 8 decks.
Are Shoe game all minimum 50,000 Won at the 7 luck casinos now? If I wanted to play under minimum 50,000 Won on a shoe game is Walker Hill the only option?
 

Baka

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AT 7 luck there is no under 50 000 minimums at shoe games,only under minimums are CSM 10 000-500 000.

Yes the only under 50 000 minimums is at Walker Hill,I didnt get time to stop by to check out Golden Gate casino next to Incheon airport located in the Hyatt hotel.
 

Dealerbuster

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Baka said:
AT 7 luck there is no under 50 000 minimums at shoe games,only under minimums are CSM 10 000-500 000.

Yes the only under 50 000 minimums is at Walker Hill,I didnt get time to stop by to check out Golden Gate casino next to Incheon airport located in the Hyatt hotel.
Golden Gate Incheon is mini Walker Hill. Rules are pretty much the same with 5000~300000, 10000~1000000, 50000~2000000 shoe-game tables. You may take shuttle bus to Hyatt at airport terminal. It takes 5 mins and departs every 20 mins.
 

San

Member
Golden Gate uses CSM as well

Golden Gate started to use CSM about 2 or 3 months ago. There's only one shoe game bj table now, which is 50,000 won to 2 million won.
 

chichow

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Baka said:
AT 7 luck there is no under 50 000 minimums at shoe games,only under minimums are CSM 10 000-500 000.

Yes the only under 50 000 minimums is at Walker Hill,I didnt get time to stop by to check out Golden Gate casino next to Incheon airport located in the Hyatt hotel.
I was at 7 luck earlier this year when they had the lower limits that were NOT CSM. When I say off-peak, I am referring to times like 4 am - 2 pm

Can someone confirm WHEN? they noticed that 7 LUCK went to CSM? And confirm it is CSM and not ASM?
 

Moneyboy

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What are the current heat conditions at Seoul casinos? I read on the previous posting Walkerhill has very bad heat. What have they done or do there if they suspect or know someone is a card counting? Or do I also have to worry at other Seoul casinos too? Should I even worry if I only go to Korea once every few month doing 2-3 day trips at a time?
 

Dealerbuster

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Moneyboy said:
What are the current heat conditions at Seoul casinos? I read on the previous posting Walkerhill has very bad heat. What have they done or do there if they suspect or know someone is a card counting? Or do I also have to worry at other Seoul casinos too? Should I even worry if I only go to Korea once every few month doing 2-3 day trips at a time?
I was barred by WH during my fourth trip this year. No prior oral warnings, no thick cutting, just ask me not to play BJ anymore very politely.
 

Dealerbuster

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chichow said:
I was at 7 luck earlier this year when they had the lower limits that were NOT CSM. When I say off-peak, I am referring to times like 4 am - 2 pm

Can someone confirm WHEN? they noticed that 7 LUCK went to CSM? And confirm it is CSM and not ASM?
I think it's in May this year. And definitely CSM.
 

chichow

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Dealerbuster said:
I was barred by WH during my fourth trip this year. No prior oral warnings, no thick cutting, just ask me not to play BJ anymore very politely.
To be clear, are you talking barred or backed off? barred is often thought of as you are not allowed on property anymore regardless of game.

at the time, playing with card or playing unrated?

have you gone back and played unrated?

you asian or not? <-- not trying to out you, but just trying to get some detail on the WH heat levels and how good the crew is on follow on.

for example, in the USA you can get backed off of blackjack and in many cases come back to the casino or sister property and still play unrated without getting noticed by the casino
 

Dealerbuster

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chichow said:
To be clear, are you talking barred or backed off? barred is often thought of as you are not allowed on property anymore regardless of game.

at the time, playing with card or playing unrated?

have you gone back and played unrated?

you asian or not? <-- not trying to out you, but just trying to get some detail on the WH heat levels and how good the crew is on follow on.

for example, in the USA you can get backed off of blackjack and in many cases come back to the casino or sister property and still play unrated without getting noticed by the casino
I am clearly told not to play BJ but still welcome to bet on any other game.

I played with card and got comped. But didn't bother to try playing there anymore. The sales representative would recognize me anyway.

Yes I'm Asian. I think the crew are good and decisive. I was even losing when the barring occurred. (However accumulating some profit in previous trips)
 

chichow

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so it sounds like you were backed off.

I wonder if you would be able to play unrated sometime if the sales representative is not around.

or to see if you are marked in the system to try again with a card sometime in the future.

Regardless, although WH has a nice ambiance, there is also 7 Luck.

good luck in your play
 

Dealerbuster

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jerseyshop101 said:
Ref the players card: after you redeem your points off your card for a debit card, you can then sell the debit card for 94% cash (totally legal and legit) outside the casino at gift card shops.
Hi, Would you share the exact location of the shops? I couldn't find one during my trip.
 

San

Member
Dealerbuster said:
Sorry, Im not quite familiar with Seoul.
Do you mean the one near JW Marriot Gangnam?

Thanks again.
There is one around Hilton. It's near Nandaemun Market Station (Metro No. 424 or 423 Station) Exit 7. When you come out from exit 7, go straight and then turn left at the first corner. There's a small booth in front of a steak house (Outback or something I think). Go inside and give the cards to the guy and he knows what to do. Normally it 95% for 50,000 and 100,000 card and 96% for 300,000 and 500,000 card.

You shall see Sinsegae Department store when you come out from exit 7, if you don't, you are either in the wrong station or wrong exit.
 
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