Learned an important lesson tonight

Buddah B

Member
First off I was losing (down about 20 units after 3 hours) so I wasn't particularly happy. Then I proceeded to sit down at a table being dealt by a woman who looked and acted like she would rather be anywhere else in the world. She then proceeded to give the following advice to players who were asking

1) Go with your gut when you have a 13
2) You shouldn't double an 11 vs. face
3) Ridiculed someone for not doubling S16 vs. 2
4) Said all the pros in Vegas play with their gut
4) Ridiculed me for splitting 3's vs. 5

And this is the point where I lost it. I just told her that it was the right play and I would think someone who sits here and does this every day would at least know a little more than she does. Then I told her that pros do not play with their gut and it's all math, She asked me if I played poker, I told her yes and she said "well what do you do's there" You's goes with yo gut sometime dontcha?" I said in poker you are not playing against a person with the same set of rules that they have to play by like a blackjack dealer does. I then asked her if she thought her gut was more accurate that a computer that has simulator billions of hands determining what the right thing to do is every time. To that she said some nonsense about me hitting my 16 against a face and always busting. At this point I was just out of breath and pissed off. Oh she also said she never plays blackjack, only video poker so she's a real genius. Has anyone else just lost their cool like that? I know it was the wrong thing to do, won't happen again, I just felt like venting to someone.

BTW my last hand was my only 8 unit bet of the night. 10/10 vs. 4 and that b!tch spikes a 21. Goodnight.
 

Tarzan

Banned
Dealers

Dealers see a lot of cards go across the table... a LOT. They also hear every snippet of typical "gut feeling play" that comes from the average player that deviates from basic strategy, believes in the "streaks and runs and luck" factor and numerous other strange things that these players all do from hearing it all and seeing it all so much. It has all been reinforced to them time and time again. Take any advice from a dealer, from a pit person, from another player with a "grain of salt" as it is likely off the mark and incorrect but avoid haggling with them about it all is MY advice... which you must ALSO take with a grain of salt.

They can feel like they are experts to give advice but be way offbase at times. To argue with them is wrong maybe... "dummy up" and nod mindlessly or something (and ignore their ridiculous advice) but to get too technical in a conversation with them is to attract attention. To argue with them on proper strategy (or with another player for that matter) is to attact attention.

To be upset about the 20 vs. 4 with the dealer pumping out a 21 out of the deal is correct though!
 

ycming

Well-Known Member
Yup yup i got one dealer claim to be a BJ expert and read the bringing the house down book.

then she proceeds to tell me bj is a team game... At that point i was just pissing myself laught inside and totally ignored her :D. But i ended up winning and tossed her a chip and said " thanks for the tip"

Ming
 
Bud

Buddah B said:
First off I was losing (down about 20 units after 3 hours) so I wasn't particularly happy. Then I proceeded to sit down at a table being dealt by a woman who looked and acted like she would rather be anywhere else in the world. She then proceeded to give the following advice to players who were asking

1) Go with your gut when you have a 13
2) You shouldn't double an 11 vs. face
3) Ridiculed someone for not doubling S16 vs. 2
4) Said all the pros in Vegas play with their gut
4) Ridiculed me for splitting 3's vs. 5

And this is the point where I lost it. I just told her that it was the right play and I would think someone who sits here and does this every day would at least know a little more than she does. Then I told her that pros do not play with their gut and it's all math, She asked me if I played poker, I told her yes and she said "well what do you do's there" You's goes with yo gut sometime dontcha?" I said in poker you are not playing against a person with the same set of rules that they have to play by like a blackjack dealer does. I then asked her if she thought her gut was more accurate that a computer that has simulator billions of hands determining what the right thing to do is every time. To that she said some nonsense about me hitting my 16 against a face and always busting. At this point I was just out of breath and pissed off. Oh she also said she never plays blackjack, only video poker so she's a real genius. Has anyone else just lost their cool like that? I know it was the wrong thing to do, won't happen again, I just felt like venting to someone.

BTW my last hand was my only 8 unit bet of the night. 10/10 vs. 4 and that b!tch spikes a 21. Goodnight.
You lost it because you were losing. If the dealer is targeting you with BS, I say tell them off. Otherwise keep quiet.

CP
 

Buddah B

Member
Yeah, I am well aware that I should not give advice, not act like I know what I'm doing, not draw attention to myself, and I was an idiot and did all of those. Playing 10 dollar units I don't have that much to worry about, but still, better to not make a habit of it for when I start playing for larger stakes.
 
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