Lets warn each other :)

Dabucci

Active Member
#1
If anyone has been to Las Vegas, Reno etc, and would care to comment on anything they found particulally bad, or good, about certain hotels, casinos, resturants..etc. As I see it, it's the card counters vs the casinos, so lets stick together. The casinos do it, so should we.
 

ihate17

Well-Known Member
#2
Yes and no, exactly like the casinos sometimes do

Actually, casinos do not talk to eachother very much unless they are sister properties.
Sometimes with the use of a third party like Griffin they might blast a player but be sure that if they have a big fish at Belaggio, no one in management there is calling Caesars and telling them about their windfall loser.

In the same way, I feel I can share information about bad games and things casinos do that might abuse or take advantage of players but also in the same way, why would I share information on a game that I can milk for big bucks, risk the casino finding out their mistake or risk other advantage players coming in and killing the game.

ihate17
 
#3
The Golden Rule

ihate17 said:
Actually, casinos do not talk to eachother very much unless they are sister properties.
Sometimes with the use of a third party like Griffin they might blast a player but be sure that if they have a big fish at Belaggio, no one in management there is calling Caesars and telling them about their windfall loser.

In the same way, I feel I can share information about bad games and things casinos do that might abuse or take advantage of players but also in the same way, why would I share information on a game that I can milk for big bucks, risk the casino finding out their mistake or risk other advantage players coming in and killing the game.

ihate17
Why would I tell another AP about an opportunity? Because I would want another AP to tell me about an opportunity. That alone is a sufficient reason, in my ethos. If I tell you about mine and you tell me about yours, we both have two games to exploit then, right?

But that doesn't apply to an opportunity that would be destroyed by telling someone else about it. You want to share special info only with those who won't trash it. I'd say sharing with people with a similar betting level and experience level is a good place to start. Obviously that can't happen on a public forum.
 

shadroch

Well-Known Member
#4
I happily share some things with everyone,share other things with people I expect to get something back from.,and share a few things with no-one.Saddly,I rarely find anything worth not sharing.
 

Dopple

Well-Known Member
#5
So if an AP finds a good joint would it not be true that he could trash it out for other players by using too big a spread and just not playing with some kind of minimal cover just to not be putting it in their faces.

I think we have a responsibility to not get the heat up where we play, right?
 

ihate17

Well-Known Member
#6
good games or promotions

There have been times where a casino has had a very good game or great promotion where perhaps they did not figure the math very well or knew the math but also knew that their average player did not have the example to exploit it.
Instead of this promotion serving as a bonus or incentive to lure their average player, word gets out in the AP community and imagine the casino reaction if they either get taken for big money overall or just look around and think they are suddenly running a convention for cardcounters. It would not be the first promotion cancelled, mid-promotion.

Also, information listed here on a public board might make the casino aware of a mistake they made in their promotion or just scare them into cancelling. Worse yet, get photos of everyone who shows up and then cancel the deal.

Private sharing for something in return with responsible people or sharing because you like someone but warning them to keep it quiet is fine and I do it but public sharing on a board like this is dangerous.

ihate17
 

bj bob

Well-Known Member
#7
Overly myopic?

Dabucci said:
If anyone has been to Las Vegas, Reno etc, and would care to comment on anything they found particulally bad, or good, about certain hotels, casinos, resturants..etc. As I see it, it's the card counters vs the casinos, so lets stick together. The casinos do it, so should we.
Let's not get too focused on just the card counting aspect of the gentlman's question here guys. Although you all are certainly correct about over-sharing info about technicalities of a paticular game, he did in fact suggest the sharing of other conditions as well, viz.room deals, accomodations, food quality as well as perhaps comp promos. I see nothing wrong with expounding on those aspects of his query.
 
#8
Dabucci said:
If anyone has been to Las Vegas, Reno etc, and would care to comment on anything they found particulally bad, or good, about certain hotels, casinos, resturants..etc. As I see it, it's the card counters vs the casinos, so lets stick together. The casinos do it, so should we.
You first. Tell us something you found that is "good". zg
 

EasyRhino

Well-Known Member
#9
Dabucci said:
If anyone has been to Las Vegas, Reno etc, and would care to comment on anything they found particulally bad, or good, about certain hotels, casinos, resturants...
Don't worry, by the time you're old enough to do it legally, whatever news from now will probably have changed.

Except the strip clubs will still be expensive.
 

shadroch

Well-Known Member
#10
Robertas in the EC is a great inexpensive steakhouse.
Binions steakhouse is also good and has a fantastic view.
The steakhouse in Wynn is great,if someone else is picking up the tab.
Avoid the buffet at the Imperial Palace..

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