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Confessions of a ploppy

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Hiya all! long time listener, first time caller !
Last week, I am watching a table that just shuffled. (6 deck shoe, h17 doa.$25-500) The srnning count goes up to +6 after 3 hands. I like it, so I put down some cash at 3rd base. Right away, the dealer asks why I didnt get in at the shuffle, as it screws up the cards for the rest of the players.(the rest of the table agrees) I almost told the dealer the reason i got in was that the count was +6! Instead my retort was that it didnt matter to the cards.
they guy at my right was betting like no tomorrow, and couldnt play bs. he couldnt have known the count. but was making the most noise.

Could it be the dealer knew what the count was?
were they all being superstious?

I have discussed counting with the dealers here, but I always say its a waste of time to try and count out 6 decks.
Other dealers in same place have said counting 6 decks is possible.
Others even say not to worry about the camera or security.
Is there no heat ?
What is a good way to ask for better deck penetration?

I was using simple Hi Lo, proficient in bs, (thanks zg) learning speed with red 7 count.
any recommendations?
 
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Canceler

Well-Known Member
A couple of recommendations

Play with the dealers who think counting six decks is impossible.

Don't say any form of the word "count" at the casino again.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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Confessions of a ploppy said:
What is a good way to ask for better deck penetration?
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EXCERPT FROM ZG INTERVIEW -

What are some of the ploys you use to induce the dealers to give you better penetration?

Inducing better penetration is a subtle art and should be attempted only if you’re really confident that you can get away with it without alienating the dealer or having her rat you out to the pit. Such techniques are useless in those casinos that use a notch on the shoe or discard rack to standardize the cut, but many blackjack games still leave room for dealer-discretionary penetration.

One trick I use is borrowed from Ian Anderson’s Burning the Tables in Las Vegas: In double deck games I tell the dealer that “today is my brother’s 29th birthday, so please place the shuffle card 29 cards from the bottom”. In shoe games, “my brother” is 46, so I ask that the card be placed 46 cards from the bottom, “for luck,” I add.

I place a toke bet out as I insert the cut card and demonstrate the penetration I desire, and proclaim, “Let’s make some money.” If the dealer balks, I add conspiratorially, “Just get as close as you can.”

Often times all it takes is to ask in an innocent, unabashed way. Occasionally a dealer is only too happy to place the cut card deeper. “Mums the word,” I quip with a wink.

END EXCERPT
 
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