My last emails with Rubin. zg
Max Rubin on card-counter detection
The following quotations were taken from Max Rubin's sworn deposition, on 08/30/1994 at the Tropicana Hotel:
Q: Lawyer Daily to (Max Rubin): How long did you work as a card counter catcher?
A: Rubin Answers: A year, year and a half.
Q: Lawyer Daily: Could you tell me what your duties as a card counter catcher were?
A: Rubin Answers: Several. One I was--I had the pit, the double deck pit on grave yard where essentially the high limit play was on the Mirage on that particular shift and I was responsible for our looking at the high limit play, observe the betting patterns, those sort of things. Observing just the act the people put on, trying to identify people that were together and recognizing some sort of team play.”
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> > >From: [email protected]
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >
> > Your interview was a great read. However,
> > credentials alone don't qualify anyone for the Blackjack Ball. You also
> > have to be recommended by a regular attendee and
> > approved by the Blackjack Ball selection committee. Given
> > your extensive background in the craft, I'm sure that
> > you know many of the regulars. If you do, please have
> > one of them contact me regarding a potential
> > invitation.
> > >
> > >Max
> > >
> > >P.s. I have to be frank and tell you that your
> > >admission that you became a government informant
> > and went out of your way to entrap strangers into
> > committing crimes to get your sentence reduced
> > could be very troubling to the selection committee.
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> > > griftzen replied:
> > >
> > >Max - Frankly, I didn't know previously that
> > there was a formal committee, either.
> > As for the 'informat' part of my life,
> > I understand that it could be troubling for some...
> > but these were carreer
> > telephone-fraudsters who were
> > taking down hundreds of millions in retirees'
> > IRA funds.
> >
> > I will see about getting a referral and I won't
> > get my hopes up in any event.
> > > >
> > > > Ps - Some have found it troubling that you once
> > >worked for the casinos catching counters... but I'm
> > ok with it
regards, m
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>--- Arnold Snyder wrote:
>
> > Uh Marcus,
> >
> > Max Rubin has never for even one day worked as a
> > counter catcher. That probably was not the thing to say
> >to get into the party.
> >
> > I will talk with Max, but I believe that your best
> > shot would be to let it rest for this year, since
> > the party is probably at
> > limit anyway, and let me
> > bring it up for next year.
> >
> > Hang in there,
> > Arnold
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> >Then Arnold Snyder wrote:
> >
> >Actually, I have found out you were right about
> >[Rubin being a counter-catcher].
> >
> >Sorry,
> >Arnold
-------------> > >From: [email protected]
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >
> > Your interview was a great read. However,
> > credentials alone don't qualify anyone for the Blackjack Ball. You also
> > have to be recommended by a regular attendee and
> > approved by the Blackjack Ball selection committee. Given
> > your extensive background in the craft, I'm sure that
> > you know many of the regulars. If you do, please have
> > one of them contact me regarding a potential
> > invitation.
> > >
> > >Max
> > >
> > >P.s. I have to be frank and tell you that your
> > >admission that you became a government informant
> > and went out of your way to entrap strangers into
> > committing crimes to get your sentence reduced
> > could be very troubling to the selection committee.
=========================
> > > griftzen replied:
> > >
> > >Max - Frankly, I didn't know previously that
> > there was a formal committee, either.
> > As for the 'informat' part of my life,
> > I understand that it could be troubling for some...
> > but these were carreer
> > telephone-fraudsters who were
> > taking down hundreds of millions in retirees'
> > IRA funds.
> >
> > I will see about getting a referral and I won't
> > get my hopes up in any event.
> > > >
> > > > Ps - Some have found it troubling that you once
> > >worked for the casinos catching counters... but I'm
> > ok with it
regards, m=======================
>--- Arnold Snyder wrote:
>
> > Uh Marcus,
> >
> > Max Rubin has never for even one day worked as a
> > counter catcher. That probably was not the thing to say
> >to get into the party.
> >
> > I will talk with Max, but I believe that your best
> > shot would be to let it rest for this year, since
> > the party is probably at
> > limit anyway, and let me
> > bring it up for next year.
> >
> > Hang in there,
> > Arnold
=======================
> >Then Arnold Snyder wrote:
> >
> >Actually, I have found out you were right about
> >[Rubin being a counter-catcher].
> >
> >Sorry,
> >Arnold
Max Rubin on card-counter detection
The following quotations were taken from Max Rubin's sworn deposition, on 08/30/1994 at the Tropicana Hotel:
Q: Lawyer Daily to (Max Rubin): How long did you work as a card counter catcher?
A: Rubin Answers: A year, year and a half.
Q: Lawyer Daily: Could you tell me what your duties as a card counter catcher were?
A: Rubin Answers: Several. One I was--I had the pit, the double deck pit on grave yard where essentially the high limit play was on the Mirage on that particular shift and I was responsible for our looking at the high limit play, observe the betting patterns, those sort of things. Observing just the act the people put on, trying to identify people that were together and recognizing some sort of team play.”
...more - http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/greenbaize21/maxrubin.htm (Archive copy)
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