NewB here, can you be ban from the casino for winning to much?

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Holen1

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Hi all,


Not really sure if anyone knows the answer or ever gone through this, but can I be ban from the casinos for winning to much? I'm not a card counter but strange as maybe, I've been winning alot. When I say alot, I'm talking about 100k+. I play in Vegas so this question is for the Vegas area. However I'm sure that all casino will react the same way, if they keep losing money. I know they have the right to reject certain customers , but the ones they usually reject are the identified card counters. Please chime in if you have any input.


Thanks.
Fellow Black Jack player
 
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NightStalker

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Depends

Most of the smart casinos will NEVER back you off assuming they have used software to evaluate your play.. If you are -EV, you are good..
 
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Mewtwo

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I've got to assume that if you're getting lucky and they know you're getting lucky, they will welcome you back with open offers and huge comps figuring you will lose back what you've won.

If they think they're getting beat on terms of skill and confirm this, you'll end up getting tapped on the shoulder and asked not to return (or at least not to play BJ.)
 
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Holen1

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Mewtwo said:
I've got to assume that if you're getting lucky and they know you're getting lucky, they will welcome you back with open offers and huge comps figuring you will lose back what you've won.

If they think they're getting beat on terms of skill and confirm this, you'll end up getting tapped on the shoulder and asked not to return (or at least not to play BJ.)
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When u say skill player, are you talking about basic strategy, cause that's how I play.
So far in the past 2 years I have won 19 out of 20 times. Not a bad record, but what ever I'm doing seems to be working. Just basic strategy with no alcohol involve.
 
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Sharky

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if you are not counting an up $100k => QUIT!!!!

you will give it back over time for sure.

fyi, they will ban you when you are down $$$$$ too
 
Sonny

Sonny

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Holen1 said:
When u say skill player, are you talking about basic strategy, cause that's how I play.
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NightStalker was talking about skills that give you an advantage over the house. If you are just playing basic strategy then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. Even if the casino is very paranoind, you will likely start to lose it back beore you hit their choke point.

-Sonny-
 
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duanedibley

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Holen1 said:
Not really sure if anyone knows the answer or ever gone through this, but can I be ban from the casinos for winning to much?
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As other people have said, there is no need to worry. You will lose it all back and more unless you decide to quit early ;)
 
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tribute

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Holen1 said:
Hi all,


I've been winning alot. When I say alot, I'm talking about 100k+. I play in Vegas so this question is for the Vegas area.
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Just curious. How long did it take you to win that much? Are you betting the table max? What is you biggest session win?
 
HockeXpert

HockeXpert

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Holen1 said:
can I be ban from the casinos for winning to much?
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Holen1:

You better hope the casino backs you off for your own good. If you don't stop playing you will be back here shortly asking how you can win all the money you lost back.

To answer your question, the casino can ban you for anything but most likely will not ban you unless they mistake you for a threat.
 
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MeWin$

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Dony worry about winning too much

You should be worried about losing your 100k, which unless you have winning the lottery luck, you will. You will lose it all, so my advice would be to stop playing unless youre fine with that. You will lose.
Good luck though.
 
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21forme

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Here's a story from the early days of Trump Plaza:
There was a high roller baccarat player betting 50K/hand. He was up about a million. The Donald was there and watching. He told the pit boss to cut the guy's max bet to 10K. The guy was pissed, got up and cashed out. He went next door to Caesars and lost his million back.
 
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All the laws of probability say is that you have a greater chance of losing than winning when you play against the house advantage using only basic strategy. The laws of probability do not say that you will lose. Seasoned players here are telling you you will lose based on their many years of experience playing the odds. They know you don't have to lose, but they know also that they have never seen anyone, including themselves, who did not lose if they persisted in playing against the house advantage with nothing but basic strategy. Who knows? You may be the first to get and stay lucky.

Remember Dirty Harry?
I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
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Well, do ya, holen1? Are you the one?

Agent Smith: You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of your death... Goodbye, Mr. Anderson...
Neo: My name... is Neo.
 
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BJBlowHole

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Remember Dirty Harry?
I know what you're thinking. "Did he fire six shots or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
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Well, do ya, holen1? Are you the one?

Aslan, you crack me up.
 
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Holen1

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I appreciate all the concern with me losing it all back. I'm a longtime B/j player the lost most of the time before I change up my strategy with a few basic tweak. I'm all aware of the fact that it could go downhill from here quick. ESP on a bad run and going on tilt, that's why it takes self control on my part to walk away if I can't control my bets.

This run has been amazing, and I won't stop until I lose a set limit of 25k--bankroll--if I do lose that, I can still say I'm up and walk away or take a long break. Anyway I'll keep playing with my basic strategy and lucky rabbit foot in my pocket until I lose my bankroll, which will still be painful to give back. :O(


Back to the subject of being ban, to avoid or help prevent the situation, I plan on spreading my visits to different casinos and play without id. What you guys think about that?
 
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johndoe

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If you're not playing with an advantage (and you aren't), and you still insist on playing (very foolish), don't worry about spreading your action around. Play where you like, and where they give you the best comps. Play right on your card, I see no downside at all.

But your best bet is to stop immediately. Why give any back?
 
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Machinist

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I have a private game

If you are interested in spreading your play around Holen1, i would like to take a shot at your 100 G.....
I will bring the game to you if interested...:p:p:laugh: No counting PLease!!!

Machinist
 
aslan

aslan

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Machinist said:
If you are interested in spreading your play around Holen1, i would like to take a shot at your 100 G.....
I will bring the game to you if interested...:p:p:laugh: No counting PLease!!!

Machinist
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You can take a shot at my bankroll, Machinist. Do you play pool? I am getting old, with arthritis, and other ailments, including fading eyesight, poor muscle memory, diminished reflexes, and problems with sugar, concentration, and physical stamina, but I am sure we can work out a game that would be fair to both of us. :laugh: Do you prefer nine-ball or one pocket? PS--Don't even think of introducing a "ringer" into the mix.

Minnesota Fatslan :joker: j/k
 
Pelerus

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aslan said:
Agent Smith: You hear that Mr. Anderson?... That is the sound of inevitability... It is the sound of your death... Goodbye, Mr. Anderson...
Neo: My name... is Neo.
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I think Holen just might be "the one". He's managed to discover that the casinos exist in a matrix, and to twist the laws of physics within that matrix to such an extent that basic strategy assures him an edge of over 10 percent.

Don't worry though Holen, Agent Griffin is not as smart as Agent Smith was.
 
blackchipjim

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Whales ahoy!

You don't have a thing to worry about because casinos love whales and will go out of their way to kiss your butt. They wouldn't risk losing the action you are talking about and would be taking a big risk by getting funny with you. Good luck and kick some butt I would always want to be lucky instead of a good player.
 
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NightStalker

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no way

Holen1 said:
Back to the subject of being ban, to avoid or help prevent the situation, I plan on spreading my visits to different casinos and play without id. What you guys think about that?
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Personally, I never play rated. But for you, DONOT play without the ID :)
You may want to spread your play:
  • You are feeling unlucky at one place.
  • It's always fun to explore new places.
  • You want to remind your host that they are in competition to get more cash in coupons..

I guess you are using some sort of system(which is not related to counting), and is going well but eventually will respect the law of probability.

PS: There are some systems like counting wins Vs Loss and dealer bust probability which are loosely coupled with counting and can give you an edge.. I hope you are not using one of them..
 
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