desertwolf said:
How much stronger are these counts than hi-lo count. If you can win more money with a different count with the same effort, why doesn't everyone switch? After you learn the count it wouldn't be any harder would it?
I would recommend that you stick with hi-lo, D-wolf. I can't argue with bigplayer's numbers that simulations show a 5-10% increase in level 2 counts over level one counts for shoe games, but I am a believer that in the real world that number tends to be on the lower end of that range, if not vanishes completely. Players that play a lot of pitch games may benefit from such a move, but a red chip player playing 10-12 hours a week, almost exclusively shoe games, such as yourself, isn't going to see much difference. Since you have mastered hi-lo and been playing it for a number of years, I would definitely stick with that. I understand your frustration, that your results over the last few months are not what you hoped and thought they would be, but they wouldn't be much different had you been playing a different count.
If you are looking to bump up your results 5-10%, I would concentrate on other things before considering learning a new count. Things like playing as accurately as possible, getting out of those negative counts, concentrate on finding and playing better games, maybe take a second look at your bet spread and ramp, and don't forget those matchplay's. A few $5 and $10 matchplay's per month, can really help out a red chipper.