Promo comportment

[johndoe]

Let's say there were some kind of favorable situation, like a 2:1 blackjack promo or coupon loophole, that provided a real edge that need not be hidden from the eye.

What's the right comportment for this?

Blast away all day, brazenly and openly, even at table max? Play a little conservatively, at a slight sacrifice of EV, so as not to appear unusually sharp? Any need for cover of any kind? How about the use of a (accurate) player's card?

I have some ideas about this, but I'm curious to what others here think.

 

[Machinist]

Blast it

In my world ::::: BLAST IT :::: if you dont someone else will.........99% of the time...

Machinist

 

[daddybo]

Let's say there were some kind of favorable situation, like a 2:1 blackjack promo or coupon loophole, that provided a real edge that need not be hidden from the eye.

What's the right comportment for this?

Blast away all day, brazenly and openly, even at table max? Play a little conservatively, at a slight sacrifice of EV, so as not to appear unusually sharp? Any need for cover of any kind? How about the use of a (accurate) player's card?

I have some ideas about this, but I'm curious to what others here think.

Most of the time I'd blast it... unless you can think of a reason to risk it being fixed. (like maybe you can milk it without fear of it being discovered or ended prematurely)

 

[NightStalker]

Either blast it

or give up your seat to someone who is waiting to play it !!!

 

[johndoe]

I agree with you. The only reason I can think of to not blast it completely is if they peg you as someone particularly sharp, and you win big, they may cut you off prematurely and cry mercy.

But that's not a very compelling reason.

Player's card? I wonder if comps would accrue.

 

[paddywhack]

BLAST AWAY TIL YOU CANT BLAST ANYMORE...

I had the chance to capitalize on a felt labeling mistake which was very positive ev. Everyone was betting max on that sidebet, the pit expected it.

 

[WRX]

Play it for all it's worth, because who knows how long it will last. The best promos have a way of being ended early. Even if the casino wises up, and realizes it has a problem, what's it going to do, bar every player at every table? I doubt staff ever wants to go overboard with that kind of thing, because of the paperwork involved if for no other reason. (Just don't be an ass and attract undue attention to yourself.)

I'd make an exception for something like 2:1 BJ coupons available in essentially unlimited supply with no expiration date, which is a play in at least one place I know of. You don't want to get yourself backed off for coupon abuse, if you know that otherwise you can always come back and play another day.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Let's say there were some kind of favorable situation, like a 2:1 blackjack promo or coupon loophole, that provided a real edge that need not be hidden from the eye.

What's the right comportment for this?

Blast away all day, brazenly and openly, even at table max? Play a little conservatively, at a slight sacrifice of EV, so as not to appear unusually sharp? Any need for cover of any kind? How about the use of a (accurate) player's card?

I have some ideas about this, but I'm curious to what others here think.

I would consider it just a particular case of the balance we seek in any kind of AP, which is maximizing EV by exploiting the game as much as you can without getting thrown out of it. If you are just counting a normal game you also have to consider that too much too fast will also end your EV there. So it's a matter of judgment concerning a few variables- how much is the promo worth right here and now, how valuable is it for you to be able to come back to this place, how much is this place known to put up with, etc.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

Normally smart APs don't post about a promotion on public site. Please enjoy the promotion and better to delete/edit the post. Your post may results in death of promotion and then you will shattered.

Agreed. Someone will kindly PM about the promo, and go in there all guns ablazin placing as much action on the felt as they can.

 

[Lonesome Gambler]

JD, the only reason I can think of to not immediately bet the max and burn the game out (because someone is going to, and usually fast) is if it's offered at a casino that you frequent that offers other valuable games. If you're suddenly betting much higher than your average bet, red flags will be raised. If it's not a place that you need to play at frequently for other reasons, you absolutely must play for maximum EV! If it's the former scenario, you might be able to hire someone to play it for you for a small price to avoid any personal scrutiny but to still be able to make some quick cash.

 

[Sucker]

I would consider it just a particular case of the balance we seek in any kind of AP, which is maximizing EV by exploiting the game as much as you can without getting thrown out of it. If you are just counting a normal game you also have to consider that too much too fast will also end your EV there. So it's a matter of judgment concerning a few variables- how much is the promo worth right here and now, how valuable is it for you to be able to come back to this place, how much is this place known to put up with, etc.

This is perhaps the best advice for this situation. There are just too many variables to be able to come up with one 'best' answer.

About 15 years ago the Treasure Bay casino in Biloxi decided to run a 2:1 on blackjack promo. Arnold Snyder published the info in his newsletter, and lo & behold; on the day of the promotion, almost a hundred professionals showed up, all trying to play 3 X $200. Within 10 minutes everyone who was betting more than $25 got barred. I'm happy to say that I was in a different part of the country that day.

 

[wwcd]

Normally smart APs don't post about a promotion on public site. Please enjoy the promotion and better to delete/edit the post. Your post may results in death of promotion and then you will shattered.

Deleted the post about the promo. I am not an AP, I'm a BS player for fun, who casually counts for fun as well. I don't have a set bankroll for blackjack since I will not be playing this game long-term due to moving to a location with no blackjack.

But deleted the post for you guys out there.

 

[muppet]

feel free to PM me and share where this promo is

 

[bigplayer]

Let's say there were some kind of favorable situation, like a 2:1 blackjack promo or coupon loophole, that provided a real edge that need not be hidden from the eye.

What's the right comportment for this?

Blast away all day, brazenly and openly, even at table max? Play a little conservatively, at a slight sacrifice of EV, so as not to appear unusually sharp? Any need for cover of any kind? How about the use of a (accurate) player's card?

I have some ideas about this, but I'm curious to what others here think.

1. Blast it with as much as you can afford
2. If you can't afford much and there is a lot of demand for a seat you should consider the value of locking in a profit by selling your seat for 50% of your expectation for a realistic estimate of the number of hours you expect the promo to last. (Certainty Equiv).
3. Have lots of chips to start and encourage everyone at your table to buy-in early for just what they need to get started so that there isn't a delay right at promo start time.
4. Don't get tossed for counting
5. Don't get tossed for violation of currency reporting requirements or suspicions activity.
6. Don't be too chummy with anyone as you don't want to be put together as a team.

 

[moo321]

Really depends on the promo, or opportunity. For example, one casino sent me a huge matchplay in the mail, and I nailed it blatantly, but then played for several hours without the coupon, so I could get more, and so I wouldn't get heat for being a coupon whore.

Another time, several dozen people wandered into a casino from an event with matchplay coupons. Most of them weren't playing the max bet for the coupon, so I just hopped around the room asking strangers if I could bet the rest of their matchplay.

On the other hand, a casino I played at was offering 2:1 for suited blackjacks regularly. So I hit this much more conservatively, counting a shoe game with a 1-8 spread so I didn't get backed off.