Questions: Table Hopping Heat/Bet fluxtuations/Coloring Out

cardcounter0

Well-Known Member
#21
"What about in theory where I don't lose any of it and keep winning say up to 1,000 in profit for the night after jumping to 5 different tables in a relatively short period of time and the pit bosses or the "eye in the sky" notice that I'm not losing. That's what I'm worried about. "

Don't worry. They will be glad to give you a very nice hotel room absolutely free to spend the night in, and will even buy you breakfast in the morning.

Please come back and post how your amazing cannot lose system actually worked in a real casino.
:laugh:
 

GeorgeD

Well-Known Member
#22
cardcounter0 said:

Don't worry. They will be glad to give you a very nice hotel room absolutely free to spend the night in, and will even buy you breakfast in the morning.
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So you're saying even if you win, the Casino bosses will still love you in the morning. :grin:

I suppose they won't tell the other Casinos you're easy either.
 

LeonShuffle

Well-Known Member
#23
Burchy, your system does not work. You WILL find that out eventually. Maybe you'll admit it here or maybe you won't. But I guarantee you, it will not give you an advantage in the long run.


P.S. Hope everyone here's doing alright. This is my first time on the old forum in quite a while.
 

blackchipjim

Well-Known Member
#24
hope on hopping

The technique of wonging is really the only true profitable way of making big money. Your technique of wonging could cause you alot of heat because they may or may not try to track you depending on the conditions. If you blend in with the crowd and just look like some jerk that jumping around great. If you look like you know what your doing but they can't pin point what expect to get tossed or at least banned from bj. blackchipjim
 
#25
hop around all you want they won't care.

Burchy27 said:
I would like to propose a couple of examples of behavior at a Casino in regards to playing Blackjack and I would like to hear some responses on the amount of heat each behavior would bring. If different casino's act differently please be specific. But overall I'm looking for a general answer that would apply to most casino's.

1. Table hopping while only flat betting.

2. Table hopping while flat betting and leaving each table only after you are up a couple of hands.(If you started with a 1,000 bankroll while betting 100 each hand and are up to 1,200. You would then go to a new table.). Basically I want to know how much heat you would attract by hopping from table to table while taking small winnings from each table.

3. This example would be the same as example #2 except instead of table hopping right away you would waste about an hour elsewhere in the casino, say at the slots before going to your next table.(Of course playing no more then $5 at the penny machines just to waste time)

For examples #2 and #3 please describe how much heat you think would occur after X number of tables have been hopped leaving each with being about 2 hands ahead using a flat bet of 100. So leaving each table with 200 in winnings.

Please describe the above for hopping 2 tables, 3 tables, 4 tables and lastly 5 tables or more.

4. Flat betting up to the point of 2 hands ahead (200 in winnings while betting a flat rate of 100) at the start of the shoe. Then reducing your bet to the table minimum for the rest of the shoe and then repeating the process. No table hopping involved unless there are horrible players at the table that are splitting 10's constantly wasting the good cards.

In all these examples there would not be any card counting involved what-so-ever.

Other than rating how much heat for each example from a scale of 1-10 also add weather or not any of these examples could be mistaken for card counting. Ex. Table hopping might make the "eye in the sky" think that team card counting is in progress and "you" are the "big player". Or as in example #3 how you could be mistaken for a solo card counter because you are drastically changing your bet size as a solo card counter would even though its in the beginning of the shoe (No count could be possible). So please describe how likely these examples could raise suspicion of card counting.

Also would like to know if you can get banned or if it's against casino rules for table hopping or drastically reducing your bet as in the examples above.

My last question is as follows: Is at absolutely necessary to color up after a session at a table if you don't want too? Simply for the fact that announcing a color up brings the person leaving the table to the attention to the pit boss.
This is something I would like to refrain from.

These might sound like newbie questions. I am relatively new to Blackjack though I have mastered basic strategy and have done game simulations and my own statistical research on flat betting. I have done extensive amounts of internet research(browsing) on the game and surprisingly I haven't found much detail on these subjects. It just occurred to myself that I haven't searched these boards for these topics so I might have just put my foot in my mouth.

I appreciate anyone who answers my questions. Please do so only if you are knowledgeable on the topics. Please refrain from turning this thread into a Card counting vs Flat betting/progressive system war.
Look dude, They wouldn't care, hop around all you want, jump up and down, just don't use any bad language or spill your drink on anybody, you won't get banned.
 

rollem411

Well-Known Member
#26
What he chose not to tell us is that he probably has a website under construction about this "new" system to beat blackjack and going to try to market it in about 3-6 months.

Get ready because the b*llshit will be coming about every 2 weeks. He will be boasting about how much money his new system has taken the casino for "AND WITHOUT EVER COUNTING A CARD!!" and when a wondering idiot stumbles across the forum and happens to read it they will think he is a genious with a new system they want to get there hands on.


Or I am completely wrong and you really do think you found a system by hopping from table to table. The only heat you'll be experiencing then is when your all fired up after losing your BR.
 

FLASH1296

Well-Known Member
#27
Serious Suggestion

If you are concerned with heat, consider the following:

I will offer you a BJ game and I will comp you to dinner and a room
IF I can deal you the game and fade your action with a BIG cash bankroll.

Why use a casino and have to deal with the "heat" ?
I will gladly give you all of the $100 action you want.
 
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