Rainy all day. Cards became thicker.

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BJgenius007

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I didn't know humidity has such great effect on cards. To make long story short, one local casino uses 6 decks on all their BJ tables, but the capacity of their discard tray is about 8.2 decks. Don't know if their intention is to make card counters difficult to estimate the number of remaining decks or they plan to change to 8 decks in the future. And after raining heavy for a few days, I notice in the first time when all cards put in the discard tray, there was about 1/7 of the space left. Cards became about 15% thicker.

That costs me dearly in the first 3 shoes until I made adjustment.

One good thing came from this though. Because the notch on the side of the shoe is fixed, the penetration became 80%+ from the standard 75% for a day.
 
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BJgenius007 said:
I didn't know humidity has such great effect on cards. To make long story short, one local casino uses 6 decks on all their BJ tables, but the capacity of their discard tray is about 8.2 decks. Don't know if their intention is to make card counters difficult to estimate the number of remaining decks or they plan to change to 8 decks in the future. And after raining heavy for a few days, I notice in the first time when all cards put in the discard tray, there was about 1/7 of the space left. Cards became about 15% thicker.

That costs me dearly in the first 3 shoes until I made adjustment.

One good thing came from this though. Because the notch on the side of the shoe is fixed, the penetration became 80%+ from the standard 75% for a day.
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Where is this at? Only casinos I've ever played have things like air conditioning, central heating and a roof. That generally keeps the temp. and humidity inside at a constant.
 
If the cards got thicker would that not increase the number above the cut groove and decrease the pen?
 
bigruss said:
Where is this at? Only casinos I've ever played have things like air conditioning, central heating and a roof. That generally keeps the temp. and humidity inside at a constant.
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Certainly the casino is not located in the desert. My first thought is that they change to 8 decks. But the ace side count is alright, consistent with 6 decks. So it makes more sense that the cards are from the storage room without air conditioning.
 
BJgenius007 said:
I didn't know humidity has such great effect on cards. To make long story short, one local casino uses 6 decks on all their BJ tables, but the capacity of their discard tray is about 8.2 decks. Don't know if their intention is to make card counters difficult to estimate the number of remaining decks or they plan to change to 8 decks in the future. And after raining heavy for a few days, I notice in the first time when all cards put in the discard tray, there was about 1/7 of the space left. Cards became about 15% thicker.

That costs me dearly in the first 3 shoes until I made adjustment.

One good thing came from this though. Because the notch on the side of the shoe is fixed, the penetration became 80%+ from the standard 75% for a day.
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This might be believable if the cards only got changed once a month or so. If they took on that much added thickness and moisture they'd be almost impossible to shuffle and deal.
 
Being a man who knows a great deal about playing cards themselves (I finally have an area of greater knowledge about something than everyone else on this forum, go me!), I can definitely affirm the above statement. Try to faro a deck that has noticeably swelled even a little bit. Not gonna happen. When cards take on that much water, the edges are pretty much non existent. This makes any sort of shuffle that involves pushing the cards together extremely difficult, resulting in many obvious rips and tears. A casino would not allow such cards to be used in play as it gives even a mildly savvy player the ability to identify certain cards with %100 percent accuracy.


Seriously, shuffling a deck that swelled is beyond impossible. Ya need good edges to shuffle a deck well!
 
BrianCP said:
Being a man who knows a great deal about playing cards themselves (I finally have an area of greater knowledge about something than everyone else on this forum, go me!), I can definitely affirm the above statement. Try to faro a deck that has noticeably swelled even a little bit. Not gonna happen. When cards take on that much water, the edges are pretty much non existent. This makes any sort of shuffle that involves pushing the cards together extremely difficult, resulting in many obvious rips and tears. A casino would not allow such cards to be used in play as it gives even a mildly savvy player the ability to identify certain cards with %100 percent accuracy.


Seriously, shuffling a deck that swelled is beyond impossible. Ya need good edges to shuffle a deck well!
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I did not see ASM complaining.
 
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