Hi everyone, I just finished reading both Blackjack Bluebook II and Blackbelt in Blackjack, and am practicing counting with KISS 3 and Red 7. I have a couple questions:
1) Based on the card counting efficiency calculator, how important is the BC vs PE for both systems? It looks like having the 7 as 0.5 gives it a higher BC in Red 7, where as making a 2 a 0.5 has a better PE in Kiss3. People say BC is more important than PE, is this correct, making Red 7 a little better?
A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10s
Red 7: -1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0.5, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9833
PE: 0.5423
IC: 0.7804
Kiss 3: -1, 0.5, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9741
PE: 0.5626
IC: 0.7804
2) I've read in posts by Renzey that Red 7 with the indexes and betting from KISS 3 make Red 7 work better. Is this transferable because they have the same imbalance?
https://www.blackjackinfo.com/community/threads/kiss-iii-v-red-seven.9028/
3) If the indexes are interchangeable, could the same thing be done for different systems with the same imbalances? I have 2 systems in mind. I got curious and was thinking of combining Red 7 and Kiss 3, with the emphasis of lower values for both the 2 and 7, while increasing the importance of the 5, which looks like this:
Red Kiss 5: -1, 0.5, 1, 1, 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9882
PE: 0.5585
IC: 0.762
Pretty much it is a Unbalanced Wong Halves. I love Renzey's tip on counting (0.5 = a), with two "a" adding up to 1. It makes counting super easy to do. I could count both the 2 and 7 as "a", and the 5 as "1a". Since these tags have the same imbalance as Red 7 and Kiss 3, could I use the KISS3 indexes and betting ramp for this Red Kiss 5 system?
4) The other system I was interested in exchanging indexes with revolves around KO.
KO: -1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.977
PE: 0.553
IC: 0.7832
New Unbalanced System: -1, 1, 1, 1, 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9913
PE: 0.55
IC: 0.7659
This new system is quite interesting, it has the same imbalance as KO, but has a super high BC of 0.9913, right up there with Wong's Halves! And by using Renzey's counting tips, it's also much simpler to count. I haven't read KO yet, but could you technically use the same indexes for it because the low numbers add up to 6, and the high cards add up to -5, just like KO? Let me know your thoughts, thank you.
1) Based on the card counting efficiency calculator, how important is the BC vs PE for both systems? It looks like having the 7 as 0.5 gives it a higher BC in Red 7, where as making a 2 a 0.5 has a better PE in Kiss3. People say BC is more important than PE, is this correct, making Red 7 a little better?
A, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10s
Red 7: -1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0.5, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9833
PE: 0.5423
IC: 0.7804
Kiss 3: -1, 0.5, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9741
PE: 0.5626
IC: 0.7804
2) I've read in posts by Renzey that Red 7 with the indexes and betting from KISS 3 make Red 7 work better. Is this transferable because they have the same imbalance?
https://www.blackjackinfo.com/community/threads/kiss-iii-v-red-seven.9028/
3) If the indexes are interchangeable, could the same thing be done for different systems with the same imbalances? I have 2 systems in mind. I got curious and was thinking of combining Red 7 and Kiss 3, with the emphasis of lower values for both the 2 and 7, while increasing the importance of the 5, which looks like this:
Red Kiss 5: -1, 0.5, 1, 1, 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9882
PE: 0.5585
IC: 0.762
Pretty much it is a Unbalanced Wong Halves. I love Renzey's tip on counting (0.5 = a), with two "a" adding up to 1. It makes counting super easy to do. I could count both the 2 and 7 as "a", and the 5 as "1a". Since these tags have the same imbalance as Red 7 and Kiss 3, could I use the KISS3 indexes and betting ramp for this Red Kiss 5 system?
4) The other system I was interested in exchanging indexes with revolves around KO.
KO: -1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.977
PE: 0.553
IC: 0.7832
New Unbalanced System: -1, 1, 1, 1, 1.5, 1, 0.5, 0, 0, -1
BC: 0.9913
PE: 0.55
IC: 0.7659
This new system is quite interesting, it has the same imbalance as KO, but has a super high BC of 0.9913, right up there with Wong's Halves! And by using Renzey's counting tips, it's also much simpler to count. I haven't read KO yet, but could you technically use the same indexes for it because the low numbers add up to 6, and the high cards add up to -5, just like KO? Let me know your thoughts, thank you.