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[kewljason]

after several years of playing hi-low, I switched to the RPC last year seeking to slightly improve my results. Living in philadelphia and playing Atl City weekly with 2 annual trips to vegas, most of my play consists of multi-deck. Not wanting any ace side count, the RPC seemed like a good choice and I have had no problem with it so far. (not sure how much it actually improves my results, but thats another matter) Any way, just wondering how many others use the RPC as I rarely see it mentioned anymore. Is it obsolete or antiquated or just unpopular?

 

[QFIT]

after several years of playing hi-low, I switched to the RPC last year seeking to slightly improve my results. Living in philadelphia and playing Atl City weekly with 2 annual trips to vegas, most of my play consists of multi-deck. Not wanting any ace side count, the RPC seemed like a good choice and I have had no problem with it so far. (not sure how much it actually improves my results, but thats another matter) Any way, just wondering how many others use the RPC as I rarely see it mentioned anymore. Is it obsolete or antiquated or just unpopular?

I use RPC as does Don Schlesinger. But most people these days use HiLo or KO as they're easier.

 

[kewljason]

Thanx Norm

Thanx Norm. Now that you mention it, I do recall Don mentioning in BJA that he used RPC. I am honored to be in such company as he and yourself. Confirms that I made a reasonable choice.

 

[zengrifter]

Thanx Norm. Now that you mention it, I do recall Don mentioning in BJA that he used RPC. I am honored to be in such company as he and yourself. Confirms that I made a reasonable choice.

In my INTERVIEW I mention starting with RPC and if I knew then what I know now I'd have never switched.

ZEN is slightly superior. zg

 

[Automatic Monkey]

I use it. It gives a little more power than the level 1 counts and because there's nothing that's significantly better for a shoe game, it eliminates the temptation to switch to anything else. Good choice.

 

[kewljason]

Yes automatic monkey, it was actually reading your Ben Franklin Count last summer that made me start thinking of switching from hi-lo/ thankyou. that was an excellent presentation. thanx to everyone who answered as well.

 

[zengrifter]

With RPC you can keep your HiLo indices if you switch to 1/2D TC. zg

 

[kewljason]

Since I was never able to find indices dersigned for RPC, I pretty much doubled the 25-30, I was using for hi-lo. I figure that puts me in the ballpark, since in the shoe game the betting cor is much more inportant anyway.

 

[zengrifter]

Since I was never able to find indices dersigned for RPC, I pretty much doubled the 25-30, I was using for hi-lo. I figure that puts me in the ballpark, since in the shoe game the betting cor is much more inportant anyway.

Yes, that is AOK. zg

 

[mjbballar23]

Switching Counts

I you were to learn two different counts, one for shoe games and a more complicated count for single and double deck, which two would be the easiest to switch back and forth between? The main factor here would be finding two different systems with similar index numbers so you wont have to memorize two different sets of index numbers

My initial thought: KO for 6d,8d and UBZ II for 1d,2d

or

Hi lo for 6d,8d and RPC for 1d,2d

Based on the previous posts in this tread it looks like HI LO/RPC would be an obvious choice but im kinda biased toward unbalanced counts....

I know if i spent a little time i could figure this out myself but i just was curious what you guys think. Any suggestions?

 

[kewljason]

hi-lo vs RPC???

If you are going to learn the level 2 RPC for 1 and 2 deck games, why would you switch away from it to a slightly lesser count (hi-lo) for shoe games? use rpc for all. maybe I didnt understand your post, but thats my take.

 

[mjbballar23]

My only thinking was the level 1 counts are much less draining in shoe games and the level 2 counts don't increase EV nearly as much in shoe games as they do in hand held games

 

[kewljason]

I guess thats a reason, but wouldnt it be much "less draining" to only deal with one count?? and one set of indices?? The RPC has a betting cor of .99 (nearly as high as possible). Betting cor is more important in the shoe game. so again, I say if you are going to go to the trouble to learn the RPC def use it on shoes. I've used it for just over a year now with no problems and if you read the earlier replys to this thread, some pretty impressive other names use it as well. other may have a differnt opinion.

 

[mjbballar23]

I guess thats a reason, but wouldnt it be much "less draining" to only deal with one count?? and one set of indices?? The RPC has a betting cor of .99 (nearly as high as possible). Betting cor is more important in the shoe game. so again, I say if you are going to go to the trouble to learn the RPC def use it on shoes. I've used it for just over a year now with no problems and if you read the earlier replys to this thread, some pretty impressive other names use it as well. other may have a differnt opinion.

Ok but what it i dont want to use RPC all the way through a 6 or 8 deck shoe. Say hypothetically i wanted to learn one count for shoe games and one for hand held, which two would you guys recommend in terms of ease of use in switching between the two?

Maybe this is a pointless question but im just curious if anyone has any recommendations...

 

[jack.jackson]

Ok but what it i dont want to use RPC all the way through a 6 or 8 deck shoe. Say hypothetically i wanted to learn one count for shoe games and one for hand held, which two would you guys recommend in terms of ease of use in switching between the two?

Maybe this is a pointless question but im just curious if anyone has any recommendations...

This is what makes the Zen count Unique. It is a very thoughtful comprosime between shoes vs pitch.

Note: Hi-opt2(A-2vs3,6+1)=RPC

 

[zengrifter]

I you were to learn two different counts, one for shoe games and a more complicated count for single and double deck, which two would be the easiest to switch back and forth between?

Forget it. Just pick one count. zg