Rookie starting out needing advice!!!

#1
Im thinking about taking up the game. I have access to Pa rules in the tri-state area AC included i would be free to go on weekends i think pa games min bet are 20$ a pop and ac 10min a pop, i can keep re-putting money into my bankroll and considering the KO since its said to be just ad good asthe hi lo

For a 4hour session what Br should i bring? Any stop losses any resizing of my max bets ?

Any input from John or anyone else who had a rocky start would be nice also any members from Ben and Colin team here? Im thinking about joining his forum but 250$ maybe a wasteof $$$ but who knows it might have info i can use
 
#2
Winneratlosing said:
Im thinking about taking up the game. I have access to Pa rules in the tri-state area AC included i would be free to go on weekends i think pa games min bet are 20$ a pop and ac 10min a pop, i can keep re-putting money into my bankroll and considering the KO since its said to be just ad good asthe hi lo

For a 4hour session what Br should i bring? Any stop losses any resizing of my max bets ?

Any input from John or anyone else who had a rocky start would be nice also any members from Ben and Colin team here? Im thinking about joining his forum but 250$ maybe a wasteof $$$ but who knows it might have info i can use
Good luck getting an answer to that! Try the free content on CVCX. Or if you're going to be a serious player buy the software (recommended) but even the free calculators will have what you are looking for as far as trip BR to your desired trip ROR
 

Midwest Player

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#3
Winneratlosing said:
Im thinking about taking up the game. I have access to Pa rules in the tri-state area AC included i would be free to go on weekends i think pa games min bet are 20$ a pop and ac 10min a pop, i can keep re-putting money into my bankroll and considering the KO since its said to be just ad good asthe hi lo

For a 4hour session what Br should i bring? Any stop losses any resizing of my max bets ?

Any input from John or anyone else who had a rocky start would be nice also any members from Ben and Colin team here? Im thinking about joining his forum but 250$ maybe a waste of $$$ but who knows it might have info i can use

First, I wouldn't spend $250 to join a forum. Free drills and help can be found online. I would suggest taking that $250 and adding it to your bankroll. If you are looking for a good free blackjack forum try this. https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/forum.php

I would find $10 min tables. A $20 min table will more than double you risk of ruin for a 4 hour play session. I probably would use a weak spread like 1 to 8 if just starting out.

CBJN list $5 and $10 min games in some PA casinos.
 
#4
Thanks the replies, Trip BR ofcourse, Most blackjack books i have show a formula to show my hourly EV so i don't need cvcx, only 2 things that concern me bankroll and heat other than that i should be good to go
 

KewlJ

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#5
Winneratlosing said:
Thanks the replies, Trip BR ofcourse, Most blackjack books i have show a formula to show my hourly EV so i don't need cvcx, only 2 things that concern me bankroll and heat other than that i should be good to go
What you mean "the formula like your win rate win be x amount of minimum bets? Or 1/4 of your Max bet? :oops: Those formulas were never right to begin with and are now outdated for today's conditions.

Any post containing the phrase "so I don't need cvcx" is made by a player who isn't serious about learning to play winning blackjack.
 
#6
Don't use KO, use Hi-lo. I don't know know how strong KO is relative to hi-lo but everyone uses hi-lo, which makes it easier to ask the counting theory questions you will have in the future.
 
#8
JohnCrover said:
Don't use KO, use Hi-lo. I don't know know how strong KO is relative to hi-lo but everyone uses hi-lo, which makes it easier to ask the counting theory questions you will have in the future.
Isn't said in Don's book that ko is equal to hi lo?
 

BoSox

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#12
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Winneratlosing said:
maybe 2$ an extra an hour means something to you but if i can use the KO properly and put in more hours then why mess w/ success?
In post #1 you wrote:
Winneratlosing said:
Im thinking about taking up the game.
Winneratlosing said:
For a 4hour session what Br should i bring?
First, repeating as you said IF you can use the KO properly. Future speculation.

You are talking about adding more hours to an already planned 4-hour session. Good luck with that.

Last but not least, "why mess with success" what success are you talking about, as you haven't started playing with the KO system yet?
 
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#13
im sure Ken Uston and Wong had to listen to @ssholes like yourself before they got started?

no offense to this site or webman or anyone else this site has some BIG @ssholes
 

BoSox

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#14
I'm sorry, but concerning future success as a blackjack player is not an easy proposition. If it was that easy any old winner at losing would be destroying it.
 
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BoSox

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#16
In post #1 you wrote:
Winneratlosing said:
Any input from John or anyone else who had a rocky start would be nice also any members from Ben and Colin team here?
In your last post you wrote:
Winneratlosing said:
You talk to much shit man.
And i dont need your negative
Go preach to John i think hes chewing on his 2nd bank roll
First, you go looking for advice from John after previously being rude and hurtful to the man at times. Now, what are you going to do, start on John again? Goes to the character of a person which apparently you do not have any. For the record John gave you a good opinion in post #6.
 
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BoSox

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#17
Winneratlosing said:
Me and John are long friends on WoW.
With friends like you who needs enemies. Just what is your objective posting here on this board? Do you think the posters that have years upon years of experience need to be on this board? If you do you are sadly mistaken you low life loser. I believe nothing you say is true anyway.
 
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Hell'nBack

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#18
Winneratlosing said:
Me and John are long friends on WoW.
I bet John played more Bj than you
And 3 i wrote "you are still a dick" you dhould change your name to Bodicks not bosox lol i hope you go broke Bodicks but i think that will hapen anyway

WHINER@LOSING! WHAT ARE TRYING U TO PROVE?
 
#19
BoSox said:
With friends like you who needs enemies. Just what is your objective posting here on this board? Do you think the posters that have years upon years of experience need to be on this board? If you do you are sadly mistaken you low life loser. I believe nothing you say is true anyway.
im a low life? your a fraud, a scammer, and a retard im not saying that to be mean just the way it is, i wish this site would have credentials to authentic your win/loss in blackjack to prove you are who you say you are but it doesn't

if you did win more than you lost id shut my big mouth but you started the hurling match of name calling not me


im not proving anything just a rookie starting out needed advice i cant find in any book but clearly this site is based on name calling
 

BoSox

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#20
Winneratlosing said:
if you did win more than you lost id shut my big mouth but you started the hurling match of name calling not me
For the record, I did not start the name-calling you did and the moderator can prove it as he deleted a few of the post. Just to recall John C, made a post and I responded that I thought he was wrong. While I was immediately making a second post with the reason why you already called me a douche. Aside from all that tell me why any blackjack player, never mind someone who has played for over 30 years needs to show proof of success to anyone never mind you?
 
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