Splitting fours

Dopple

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It looks to me like splitting fours is not advised at any count. Seems like you would have alot of chances to das. I would think it would be a good move on a high count against a 5 or 6.
 
It looks to me like splitting fours is not advised at any count. Seems like you would have alot of chances to das. I would think it would be a good move on a high count against a 5 or 6.

I usually do it in slightly negative counts, which maximizes the odds of getting at least one good DAS (you want those 5's & 6's, or, better yet, a 7) - w/out negating the whole point of a DAS, which is to get a high third card (8, 9, or 10). You also don't totally negate the likelihood of the dealer's busting, which on a 15 or 16 he's apt to do in all but a substantially negative count (and if he has a small card in the hole, he's unlikely to outdraw you). But, split 4's in too high a count and you're apt to get stuck w/ two 14s, and thus forced to depend entirely on the dealer's busting. Nobody wants to do THAT, if he can avoid it. ;-)

Anyway, that's how *I* normally play it, and so far it's been workin' pretty well.

wvbjplayer
 
Original RPC indices do not split 4's at all, but using the ZEN indices at 1/2DTC conversion, the indices are: (DAS)
vs 3 @ +7
vs 4 @ +2
vs 5 @ -1
vs 6 @ -5

which I added to my play with RPC.

BJC
 
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It looks to me like splitting fours is not advised at any count. Seems like you would have alot of chances to das. I would think it would be a good move on a high count against a 5 or 6.


What kind of game are you talking about ? It's time to send you back to basic training.
 
check out your BS chart

It looks to me like splitting fours is not advised at any count. Seems like you would have alot of chances to das. I would think it would be a good move on a high count against a 5 or 6.

If you are playing a game that does not permit DAS you are correct.
If you are playing a game that does permit DAS then simple basic strategy calls for splitting 4,4 vs 5 and 6. I will not go into counting indices for this split because before you ever attempt to learn a card counting system, you need to learn basic strategy.

ihate17
 
I have the Uston APC indices right in my wallet and 4,4 is blank across the entire range of dealer up cards.

Okay, I will go back to basic training. Sorry to waste your valuable time.
 
My bad bad bad

I have the wrong split matrix. Glad I posted and thanks to all for the help.

I really am not all that new to counting I just got my matrices mixed up.

Much appreciation.
 
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