Greetings to all forum members and mentors. I will be going to vegas from july 4 to 14. It will be my first time to vegas and I want to get some info from you guys. First I would like to learn about some precautions i need to take there, for exemple how much i can spread.I planned to spread from 2 hand of 25 to two hands of 250 as max bets, will this be tolerant? I would like to know which casinos are the best to play (with the better games) MOST IMPORTANTLY is it ok to give my players card to get some comps or is it better to not play with it at all? Any info from you will be extremely appreciated. Please PM if better. Thank you in advance to everyone.
vegas from 4th to 14 tth july need some info please
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That's a 1-10 spread. If you're playing unrated, that kind of spread will attract attention. And if you're playing rated that kind of spread will get you barred.
If you play 6 deck games, the best games are found at the Wynn/Encore and at most of the MGM Casinos (MGM Grand, Mirage, Mandalay Bay, Bellagio and Aria etc.). These casinos will usually have liberal rules with the dealer standing on soft 17 at $25 in the mornings and afternoons.
The MGM Grand and Mandalay Bay allegedly have liberal rules S17 games at $15 in the mornings, too.
If you're playing for comps, you'll have to use your player card. So I say stick to the S17 liberal rules games, play rated, and spread 1 to 4 (alternatively, you can Wong in and out of games but if you do this its hard to play rated at the same time). That alone will basically nullify the house edge even without comps.
Avoid ANY casino run by Caesar's Entertainment (Harrah's, Bally's, Paris, Planet Hollywood, Caesar's Palace etc.).
If you play 6 deck games, the best games are found at the Wynn/Encore and at most of the MGM Casinos (MGM Grand, Mirage, Mandalay Bay, Bellagio and Aria etc.). These casinos will usually have liberal rules with the dealer standing on soft 17 at $25 in the mornings and afternoons.
The MGM Grand and Mandalay Bay allegedly have liberal rules S17 games at $15 in the mornings, too.
If you're playing for comps, you'll have to use your player card. So I say stick to the S17 liberal rules games, play rated, and spread 1 to 4 (alternatively, you can Wong in and out of games but if you do this its hard to play rated at the same time). That alone will basically nullify the house edge even without comps.
Avoid ANY casino run by Caesar's Entertainment (Harrah's, Bally's, Paris, Planet Hollywood, Caesar's Palace etc.).
1 to 10 spread will attract heat in a shoe game in Vegas???... Puuuulllleeeeaaassseee!....
No my experience ever.
I only play shoe games in Vegas and was there twice in the last 4 months. Played at approx. 15 stores 15 hours a day and never spread less than 1-12 and spread mostly 1-16.
Always played rated. NEVER ANY HEAT.
You'll go broke playing a shoe game with 1-8 spread unless you have huge bank and exceptional rules.
TERRIBLE ADVICE.
No my experience ever.
I only play shoe games in Vegas and was there twice in the last 4 months. Played at approx. 15 stores 15 hours a day and never spread less than 1-12 and spread mostly 1-16.
Always played rated. NEVER ANY HEAT.
You'll go broke playing a shoe game with 1-8 spread unless you have huge bank and exceptional rules.
TERRIBLE ADVICE.
They might be useful for comp hustlers though. Less hands per hour (due to more frequent shuffles) means more free drinks and a larger comps-per-hand ratio (unless they readjusted their assumed hands-per-hour to compensate for the more frequent shuffles).
I agree though, 66% penetration would be rather annoying for card counters.
I agree though, 66% penetration would be rather annoying for card counters.
It would be an upstream battle to say the least. It would help you to hone your BS and CC skills to perfection, as well as, give you experience wonging out super-aggressively. Then with your profits, you could visit Bill's for a cheap prime rib dinner. Well, I'm trying to be positive. Last time I was there, I just wanted to see how long I could stay even. The ambience seemed worth it, plus I was just killing time waiting for someone.
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Thanks to everyone for all your replies, so in conclusion if i want to spread 1- 10 to make a good hourly rate, its better to play unrated? I have a friend visiting vegas twice a year minimum using the exact same betting as me. He spread 1 - 10, But leaves every time he gets actions and he plays unrated. he has never been barred or back off in any casino, but he notice that the pit made phone calls when the pit finds him suspicious. So from what i can read. It won't be possible to play rated with a 1- 10 spread.
Youk is right. Asian gamblers are stereotypically inept (and in my experience, many of them are).
Its an offensive stereotype but you can work it to your advantage.
It might help if you go on about "luck" and "fortune" in a very vague way.
Encore is all red, so that might help, and it will remind you of Wynn Macau.
Its an offensive stereotype but you can work it to your advantage.
It might help if you go on about "luck" and "fortune" in a very vague way.
Encore is all red, so that might help, and it will remind you of Wynn Macau.
thanks again for all replies from you, in vegas now, first day went to visit a couple of casino. all harrahs casino are 8decks h17 ls, and mgm casino is 6decks h17, havent found any s17 yet but will visit the rest of the casino i havent been to. again i have another question double decks are midshoe entry allowed. will it no be even better to backcount double decks?