What will you do if people beg for money?

[BJgenius007]

This is the first time it ever happened to me. A very unfortunate gentleman lost all his money at my BJ table. So he began to beg everyone for money. He said he needs lucky money to win back his money and said he will go to ATM machine later. Watching him hand the dealer his last ten one dollar bills is heart-broken, but no one but an old lady gave him money. She gave him $40. He did use the borrowed money wisely and did not play many hands. He just sat at the table and placed a bet once a while. When someone got Blackjack or win a big hand, he always wanted to borrow some "lucky money". Since I played ten to one spread, I am his prime target as most of others flat bet. I told him I am still underwater maybe later every time he asked for "lucky" money. Finally when I towered in, he said where is my money, and I said I just get even, there is no lucky money here and quickly flee the scene. This is the second weirdest thing I ever seen. Many years ago, I saw a woman cried loud every time she lost a bet at Sands. And the casino kept letting her to play even she most likely has some mental problem.

What would you do if this happens to you?

 

[MeWin$]

I would say, sorry man with a polite no.
If he continued i would tell him to **** off.
If he still continued i would then get the pit involved.

Dont give any ground like saying maybe later, hell just become a pest like "oh you promised" etc.

Good luck

 

[21forme]

If you don't know how to handle beggars, you need to make one trip to AC for an education.

 

[FLASH1296]

In A.C. I am familiar with a woman who rarely plays a hand.

She is a fixture. who frequently puts the arm on players.

I just ignore beggars at the tables.

Recently, a desperately broke ploppy offered to sell me his (upscale) iPod.

I tossed him a black and told him that it was an interest-free pawn.

He retrieved the iPod three times, and took it home with him.

 

[Sucker]

If you give them money you are what's known as an "enabler", and are doing them more harm than good. If they're hungry I'll feed them, but I won't give them even one penny.

 

[riggler]

I've only seen a begger once...although my hours of play are probably low compared to most of you guys.

The Pit was very quick to run him off as soon as they noticed him. When he came back, he was immediately led away from the tables. I would not have hesitated to ask the Pit to throw him out if he had returned a third time (if they hadn't already).

 

[FLASH1296]

On a tangential topic ...

In the top Las Vegas strip casinos — I have found gorgeous sexy young ladies whose (seeming) profession is hustling chips from players with stacks of black and above.

 

[Sonny]

He did use the borrowed money wisely and did not play many hands. He just sat at the table and placed a bet once a while.

With a conservative strategy like that and a few loss rebates, he might have been playing with a decent edge. Ever wonder what happens to the bustouts? They're not all hustling props in the keno lounge. :joker:

-Sonny-

 

[BJgenius007]

He is/was a good customer.

I've only seen a begger once...although my hours of play are probably low compared to most of you guys.

The Pit was very quick to run him off as soon as they noticed him. When he came back, he was immediately led away from the tables. I would not have hesitated to ask the Pit to throw him out if he had returned a third time (if they hadn't already).

When I sat down, this guy had $100+ but lost it all. He is a good customer to the casino. I really doubt casino will throw him out.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

In the top Las Vegas strip casinos — I have found gorgeous sexy young ladies whose (seeming) profession is hustling chips from players with stacks of black and above.

Oh I enjoy those! They're almost always good for a couple of minutes of breasts pressed against you, if you know how to play them right. It's sort of like playing a coupon; little gain, no risk. Of course you don't give them any chips!

One time in AC I was panhandled by an outright Boardwalk bum right at the table. I told him the same thing I tell every bum- "Get a job." They hate that, for doing something that benefits another person is against the religion of a bum.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

One time in AC I was panhandled by an outright Boardwalk bum right at the table. I told him the same thing I tell every bum- "Get a job." They hate that, for doing something that benefits another person is against the religion of a bum.

How very judgmental. Do you honestly not believe many of these "bums" would work if they had the ability to hold a job? Many are mentally ill and most employers find them "unsuitable."

Sure, there are people out there looking to game the system, I can't argue that! But it is very arrogant to assume that everybody who is poor and homeless is doing so by choice.

Another note, if unemployment was at zero the economy would quickly lose all stability.

Also note that I do not advocate giving these people money. But if I have extra food on me, sure!

 

[bigplayer]

Don't be an "Enabler".

This is the first time it ever happened to me. A very unfortunate gentleman lost all his money at my BJ table. So he began to beg everyone for money. He said he needs lucky money to win back his money and said he will go to ATM machine later. Watching him hand the dealer his last ten one dollar bills is heart-broken, but no one but an old lady gave him money. She gave him $40. He did use the borrowed money wisely and did not play many hands. He just sat at the table and placed a bet once a while. When someone got Blackjack or win a big hand, he always wanted to borrow some "lucky money". Since I played ten to one spread, I am his prime target as most of others flat bet. I told him I am still underwater maybe later every time he asked for "lucky" money. Finally when I towered in, he said where is my money, and I said I just get even, there is no lucky money here and quickly flee the scene. This is the second weirdest thing I ever seen. Many years ago, I saw a woman cried loud every time she lost a bet at Sands. And the casino kept letting her to play even she most likely has some mental problem.

What would you do if this happens to you?

Do the guy a favor and call the pitboss over and ask him to get rid of the guy.

 

[pooptarts92]

I have given money to one gambler before, but this guy is a regular at the casino I work at so in a way I trusted him. I lent him 100 and he said he could pay me back at midnight when he could take out money again. And he did. But he also asked to borrow another 100, but I declined after learning how uncomfortable a feeling it is knowing someone you barely know owes you 100 bucks lol. Never again.

 

[johndoe]

This happens all the time, and you have to be very careful.

- They're attracted to big bets and big wins. Keep the piles small, and keep all high-value denoms off the table.

- A common hustle is that they offer advice to "coach" you, whether you like it or not, then if you win, they expect some kind of "cut".

- Sob stories are everywhere, and they're all bullsh1t. Don't believe a word of it.

- If nonplayers are gathering around you and making you uncomfortable, tell the floor to scoot them away. This is not a big deal.

- When you leave, be careful you're not followed...

 

[Canceler]

Watching him hand the dealer his last ten one dollar bills is heart-broken...

I agree that someone buying in with one-dollar bills is one of the sadder things you can see at the casino.

Some guy wanted me to give him $5 so he could play a single hand of BJ. That seemed pretty degenerate to me, so I just said no.

 

[riggler]

When I sat down, this guy had $100+ but lost it all. He is a good customer to the casino. I really doubt casino will throw him out.

That's a good point.

But let's consider it from the other side of a casino's point of view. And this is also from a Southern point of view, where tolerances for some things are higher and tolerances for some things are lower.

The casino's spend quite a bit of effort getting regional visitors in the south. People go back home and talk. Casinos are a business like any other and prolonged bad word of mouth is not a good business practice. Not backing off a begger in my part of the country will hurt their PR and word of mouth.

Secondly, if they back the broke guy off, and he's a good customer, he'll be back when he's got more money. The guy that drove for six hour and all of his friends back home may not be -- ever. They are going to get the local "good customer" but when you've got a cluster of competition you may not get the regional if you get a bad reputation.

 

[21forme]

A few years ago, there was an article in the Phila Inquirer about AC Boardwalk beggars. Some of them make >100K (tax free).

 

[shadroch]

A few years ago, there was an article in the Phila Inquirer about AC Boardwalk beggars. Some of them make >100K (tax free).

Sure. I'm sure this report was done with scientifc research. Right.
More than likely, the reporters observed someone on a bright sunny day in July for an hour or two and then extrapolated that amount over an eight hour day five days a week year round. These are the same observations that tell us that hookers can make $200,000 a year and that cocktail waitresses all clear $150,000 a year.

 

[aslan]

If you give them money you are what's known as an "enabler", and are doing them more harm than good. If they're hungry I'll feed them, but I won't give them even one penny.

Exactly right. They don't need money, they need Gambler's Anonymous or whatever help is out there. I wonder if they realize how far they have fallen? Sad. :sad:

 

[aslan]

Sure. I'm sure this report was done with scientifc research. Right.
More than likely, the reporters observed someone on a bright sunny day in July for an hour or two and then extrapolated that amount over an eight hour day five days a week year round. These are the same observations that tell us that hookers can make $200,000 a year and that cocktail waitresses all clear $150,000 a year.

Probably correct, even if there are occasional cases of beggars that make it. Some of them I feel need the money more than I do and getting a job is not always the issue. I'm thinking of amputees who are having trouble adjusting to society again, not to mention society's trouble adjusting to them. Even though one of them might be making a killing, I wouldn't trade places with him for all the money and things I have so far accumulated in life. One fellow I used to see near the White House, who had no legs and rolled himself on a wooden platform with two hand-iron-like devices, reportedly owned several apartment buildings (unverified). I ran into him again years later when his wife, a tall, trim, pretty and well-dressed and well-mannered lady, accompanied him to the cafeteria where I was a junior manager. Apparently, she found something in him she valued, and I really don't think it was his money. But then, even after all these years, I'm still a romantic in some ways.