What's the highest True Count you've seen in a shoe game?

[21forme]

Earlier this week, I was playing a 6D game and TC hit +12 as the cut card came out. That was a record for me.

 

[GAGE COUNTY]

wow

Highest I've seen is true +9. We're u winning big at that point?

 

[rukus]

+24 (zen), +17 (ao2)

 

[21forme]

Highest I've seen is true +9. We're u winning big at that point?

Unfortunately, no. The TC hit +4 after ~2 decks and stayed there for many hands. I was betting 2x300 at that point. I lost most of the hands and was down about 4K for the shoe. The next to last round was all low cards with dealer winning with a 5 card 21. At that point, with a degenerate gambler act, I pushed in everything I had on the table and won both hands, ending the shoe -1400.

 

[sagefr0g]

using hi/lo can't remmember the tc think maybe the tc was eight or nine but i remmember the rc was eighteen or nineteen. it was for a six deck game. i was winning some of the big bets too.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

I've seen some pretty high TCs when there's about 26 cards left.

 

[jack.jackson]

Unfortunately, no. The TC hit +4 after ~2 decks and stayed there for many hands. I was betting 2x300 at that point. I lost most of the hands and was down about 4K for the shoe. The next to last round was all low cards with dealer winning with a 5 card 21. At that point, with a degenerate gambler act, I pushed in everything I had on the table and won both hands, ending the shoe -1400.

Nice little recovery there....haha. If it werent for those last money rounds?

Of course, the deeper the pen, the higher the TCs get. Ive seen some hit as high as +60 with about 1/2 deck remaining with L2 counts. Time for splitting XXv7.

 

[bjcount]

Nice little recovery there....haha. If it werent for those last money rounds?

Of course, the deeper the pen, the higher the TCs get. Ive seen some hit as high as +60 with about 1/2 deck remaining with L2 counts.

Best TC was +10 on a 4/6 shoe at the cut card. Had two boxes with 4 fingers high of green stacked. Heads up, Pushed the last three rounds.

I was not a happy camper.

BJC

 

[jack.jackson]

Best TC was +10 on a 4/6 shoe at the cut card. Had two boxes with 4 fingers high of green stacked. Heads up, Pushed the last three rounds.

I was not a happy camper.

BJC

Nice Avatar. I could of swore you had a different one last night:laugh:

I know, I know, theres just something about a rare +10 TC(L1) that gets me really excited and when the best I get is a stinkin push(out) on 2 hands each, the last 3 rounds of play; I would probably just grab some chips and take off running......:laugh: Just kidding. Better luck next time

 

[bjcount]

Nice Avatar. I could of swore you had a different one last night:laugh:

I know, I know, theres just something about a rare +10 TC(L1) that gets me really excited and when the best I get is a stinkin push(out) on 2 hands each, the last 3 rounds of play; I would probably just grab some chips and take off running......:laugh: Just kidding. Better luck next time

Thanks, yes I changed it yesterday from Wild Bull Clinton to Ear biting Mike Byson.

Not L1, using L2 1/2dtc.

BJC

 

[callipygian]

Hi-Lo TC +7 on a 4D shoe with 85% penetration. The TC actually peaked with 1-1.5 decks left, and then dropped.

Didn't stop me from losing 3/4 hands, though.

 

[GAGE COUNTY]

thats weird

At a + 8 or 9 tc us advantaged players are supposed to have like a 3.5 to 4% adavantage over the house, yet the majority of guys on this thread are reporting to lose or push more than win. I can relate. At -1, 0, and +1, I usually do ok, but once i start uping my bets at higher counts, it seems like the dealer gets all the 20's and i get 15 or 16, for three or four straight hands. I just wish "the long run" would hurry up and come already. ha

 

[Sonny]

At a + 8 or 9 tc us advantaged players are supposed to have like a 3.5 to 4% adavantage over the house, yet the majority of guys on this thread are reporting to lose or push more than win.

Even in high counts you are still more likely to lose the hand, and pushes increase pretty quickly when most of the cards are tens. Here's a nice little graph from Qfit:

http://www.blackjackincolor.com/truecount5.htm

-Sonny-

 

[mjbballar23]

re

I saw an estimated TC = 24 on a 6d shoe (RC = 12 with half a deck left)....

 

[takinfromindians97]

count to high

I would think that when you are hitting that kind of TC that most of the cards left in the shoeare 10s or aces. Here is my question, Can the count ever get so high that it actually isnt in your favor? Theres got to be some point when the dealer is either going to push or beet your 20 with a blackjack. Maybe i am wrong here but if i got a count that was ridiculously high i would pull back my bet a little, probably not to a single unit but lower then 10 or 12 units.

 

[nottooshabby]

TC +12 near the end of a 6.5/8 shoe in AC; was using Hi-Lo lite prior to switching to Red-7. Slightly OT but highest RC using Red-7 was +20 at the end of a 5/6 shoe . . . boy did I get killed!! :flame: I forgot where I read it but yes at an extremely positive count the advantage shifts in favor of the house.

 

[takinfromindians97]

I used to use the kiss III and one time the count got to 39 or 40 near the end of the shoe and i just keep pushing or losing. It was awful now whenever it gets very very high i pull back my bets.

 

[White Guy]

I can relate. True count staying in the teens through about two decks left on 6d and I think I pushed that round. Just my luck it was a situation where all the high cards were behind the cut card because the round ended and the count was still over ten. That was the funniest thing about the movie 21 everytime he jumped in the counts were sky high and it seemed like he played endless shoes that never dropped even though he was getting all Bjacks and 20's. Winner winner chicken dinner. :laugh:

 

[HarryKuntz]

I would think that when you are hitting that kind of TC that most of the cards left in the shoeare 10s or aces. Here is my question, Can the count ever get so high that it actually isnt in your favor? Theres got to be some point when the dealer is either going to push or beet your 20 with a blackjack. Maybe i am wrong here but if i got a count that was ridiculously high i would pull back my bet a little, probably not to a single unit but lower then 10 or 12 units.

No, because if the player and the dealer are constanly hit 20's and blackjacks, the player is getting paid 2:3 on blackjacks and only losing 1:1 to the dealers blackjack. Also insurance/even money are profitable during these high counts. You may lose more in a single session, if the dealer keeps hitting Blackjack and you don't but this is just variance, you both as likely to hit a Blackjack and because of the players higher payout, you should be increasing your bets NOT decreasing.

If you are unsure of this, I would suggest practising for a while with a deck containing just Aces and 10's, then again with 80%+ A's & 10's, You will soon realise why this is profitable.

 

[rukus]

No, because if the player and the dealer are constanly hit 20's and blackjacks, the player is getting paid 2:3 on blackjacks and only losing 1:1 to the dealers blackjack.

what game is that!! that's worse than a 6:5 on blackjacks game :laugh::joker::devil: