What's the most you've won from the lowest amount?

[Cass]

Just got back from a casino here in Oklahoma, Lucky Star. I didn't play because it has the fifty-cent ante. But I did stand behind the players and practice my counting as I have done many times in the past.

There was a man in his early to mid-20's who sat down with $40. This guy wasn't counting (at least anything that I could figure out) and there was one other player at the table with him. He finished that first shoe and made about $200 betting $10 to $20 a hand. He stuck $160 in his pocket at that point.

Then the guy went into big risk-taking mode. He bet his entire wad on the first hand of the shoe and won. Then he started betting either $5 or half his wad. He won two bets in a row in which he bet half his wad (adjusting his bet to include the amount he just won). Then he won a five dollar bet. At this point the guy says "gee I should of bet the whole thing" then proceeds to lay down the whole thing. The dealer said "sorry sir, but that exceeds the table limit". The guy lays down $200, get 11 vs. dealer's ten and he doubles for less and wins. He kept betting either five, $100 or the table max of $200. I think he only lost a max bet once and didn't lose a $100 bet AT ALL. When he did lose he only had a $5 bet out.

He was doing all sorts of crazy stuff and not just crazy against the count but crazy for anyone but the most inexperienced newbie, i.e..

• double on hard 14 against a 5 and catching a 6 with $200 bet

• standing on a total of 8 when the dealer showed a ten with $200 bet

• splitting 5's and catching not one but two 6's and doubling on both hands catching a ten for each hand with $200 bet

• hitting a hard 17 and catching a 4 then the dealer turned a 20, etc.!

• He keeps saying "it's only money and even if I lose I will still have more than doubled my money" (after he took the original $40 plus $120 more and stuck it in his pocket)

He was doing things real quick, standing/hitting and not even looking at which card he was dealt (just waiting for the dealer to give him chips or take them), doubling, putting up $200 or leaving just $5 as his bet. It's like he wasn't even thinking about things just doing them.

Stuff like this leads me to believe he wasn't counting or had any idea of how to play blackjack. If he was doing anything counting or strategy-wise it's completely beyond anything I know or even heard of.

The floorperson and EVERY OTHER CASINO PERSONNEL in that pit were watching this guy close after the first $1500 but he kept doing what he was doing. The floorperson kept saying "Now I think he just bit off more than he can chew, this is where it starts to catch up to him" but the guy kept winning.

About 40-45 minutes after he sat down and at the middle of the third shoe he has about $9,000. At this point a girl with a take-out carton from the restaurant in the casino walks by and says "I got my sandwich, sorry it took so long, I know you don't want to be here, let's go". He cashes out and leaves.

$9,000 in about 45 minutes without counting or without following basic strategy whatsoever. I wonder how much he could of made if the limit wasn't $200 as this guy was trying to bet more but couldn't. $9,000 is only 45 $200 units so I guess it isn't impossible. I have gone up 50 units a few times before. But how he was playing, guessing the exact right time to lower his bets and when to hit/double/stand when the BS or count says to do otherwise is what is hard to accept. Pure luck from what I can tell.

I proceeded to sit down in that guy's spot for the rest of that shoe and lost 8 $5 bets in a row and 10 out of 12. The casino has two separate shoes of different color cards, dealing out of one while the other is being shuffled by a machine. I then backed off and waited for the other shoe to come back up. It came back up and I lost $125 on that shoe.

I guess you gotta strike while the iron's hot.

That is a pretty crazy story. It almost sounds like he was shuffle tracking, or he could see the next cards coming out, hole card maybe? I dont know or else he was just really really lucky.

 

[Sonny]

This guy wasn't counting (at least anything that I could figure out) and there was one other player at the table with him…Then he started betting either $5 or half his wad…He kept betting either five, $100 or the table max of $200. I think he only lost a max bet once and didn't lose a $100 bet AT ALL. When he did lose he only had a $5 bet out.

• double on hard 14 against a 5 and catching a 6 with $200 bet

• standing on a total of 8 when the dealer showed a ten with $200 bet

• splitting 5's and catching not one but two 6's and doubling on both hands catching a ten for each hand with $200 bet

• hitting a hard 17 and catching a 4 then the dealer turned a 20, etc.!

He was doing things real quick, standing/hitting and not even looking at which card he was dealt (just waiting for the dealer to give him chips or take them), doubling, putting up $200 or leaving just $5 as his bet. It's like he wasn't even thinking about things just doing them.

I’m sure he was probably a complete idiot, but your description above sounds EXACTLY like a front loading team. The partner would catch the hole card and signal to him how to bet/play. He wouldn’t need to think about his hands at all. He would be making crazy plays and winning very quickly. I seriously doubt that was the case, but I thought it would be interesting to point out.

At this point a girl with a take-out carton from the restaurant in the casino walks by and says "I got my sandwich, sorry it took so long, I know you don't want to be here, let's go". He cashes out and leaves.

Ah, the perfect exit! The partner for playing, the girl for cover and the money to show for it. :cool2:

-Sonny-

 

[Split8s]

I was playing at Soaring Eagle last night....bought in with $50 and starting playing 5s. Once I got close to a 100 I started playing 2 and 3 units with an occasional 4 unit bet. After a while I had 2 blacks in my pocket (my rule is that once it goes in my pocket it's gone for the session). I rarely had a blackjack.....the dealer even was joking about it......but I was doing very well with 12-16 hands, hitting many 20s and 21s.

I built up to 150+ in reds and should have colored up another black but didn't. An unusual highlight was that our young woman dealer took a break and was replaced by a young man. They use automatic shuffling machines there. I lost TWELVE straight hands! No pushes, just losses. after 3 or 4 I dropped back to one unit trying to ride it out. I dropped down over a 100 during his stint. When she returned I quickly won it back and got back to about $300 up. I should have quit but the dealer was fun and the table was having a good time.

The stake in my heart was when I had 10 vs her 7 with a $20 bet. I doubled and hit a 10 to 20. she took 2 cards to 21.....an $80 swing for me.

After I lost the rest of my reds I left with 2 blacks.....disappointing but still a $150 win. Woulda shoulda coulda but still a win with a good time. It was a business meeting for me so my expenses and room were covered.

Also thanks to this board. I learned something new here. The woman next to me had an 11 against the dealer 7 and only doubled 5 of her 10 bet. I asked to take the other 5. She hit a 10 and I won. I'd never seen it before either.

 

[aelangford]

It's not strictly blackjack I suppose, but I loaded $50 onto World Poker Exchange, and lost it. I loaded another $50 on, and cashed out $6,500 a few weeks later.

 

[21CANUCK]

My personal best

Plain and simple, I would love to know: What's the most you've won from the lowest amount?

Say you had $50 but with incredible luck and canny betting you won $300 or you had £100 and managed to work your way up to £700. It could be at a real casino or online casino!

My best win from investing the least to getting the most was a buy in of $500 and roughly 2 hours later I walked out with $8300 in my pocket. The best 2 hours pay I ever got!

 

[mgcasinos]

The most, for me----cash out $4500 with original $370 deposit.--

I play it at online casino


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[lindablair]

re: letsdealornodeal!

To: SystemTrader and Zengrifter;

Your posted replies are both sooooo Sad and Pathetic! How can you be judgemental on somebodys work when you admitted that you haven't even read the website nor seen the second phase of the system? I bet SystemTrader's clueless observation was precisely his own sleazy and empty modus operandi of observation when confronted with a system that makes
sense. Are you guys just jealous? inspite of being "experts" you have nothing to show but just being internet blabermouths? Come on, "Get out of your unenlightened boxes! How can you tell something from nothing when both of you are ignoramuses of the strategies? You guys are nothing but bogus laughable and contemptuous dimwit "experts" who are quick to render and claim expertise from something you have no iota of a clue. Just for your information I bought the system and found it viable and working. I pity you guys a bunch of boxed confused masters of glib. I am not surprise
to find both of you doing the same hopelessly bewildered, unaware and ignorant "opinions" in the same website forum 5-10 years from now. "Experts"? What a shame! If you don't know anything about something and can't afford to have it or find it out, then just shut up!
"There are more things in heaven and earth that are not dreamt of in your philosophy!" Shakespeare.

Linda Clair
Winning player!

 

[Sonny]

Just for your information I bought the system and found it viable and working.

Then perhaps you could enlighten us. How does the system work? How does it recognize favorable situations? What are the results of the computer simulations? What is the EV, SD, N0 and SCORE? Where is the proof that turns this system's theory into a law? And why was it only tested for "45,000 decisions" when millions more are required for accurate results? In fact, the "tables" he shows only give us 400 and 600 hour sessions which are completely meaningless. Much of the sales pitch contradicts itself, and he recommends a bet spread of $5-$680 to make the system successful. And doesn't is seem strange that the seller always uses words like "rationale", "preponderance" and "staying power" instead of actual proof? He also makes no mention of the variance associated with this system and gives no indication of the bankroll required to preserve a reasonable ROR. You have to understand why we are skeptical.

With all due respect, "viable" and "working" are not proof of anything. You may want to read this article before buying any more systems:

http://www.bjinsider.com/newsletter_82_scams.shtml

-Sonny-

 

[nc-tom]

To: SystemTrader and Zengrifter;

Your posted replies are both sooooo Sad and Pathetic! How can you be judgemental on somebodys work when you admitted that you haven't even read the website nor seen the second phase of the system? I bet SystemTrader's clueless observation was precisely his own sleazy and empty modus operandi of observation when confronted with a system that makes
sense. Are you guys just jealous? inspite of being "experts" you have nothing to show but just being internet blabermouths? Come on, "Get out of your unenlightened boxes! How can you tell something from nothing when both of you are ignoramuses of the strategies? You guys are nothing but bogus laughable and contemptuous dimwit "experts" who are quick to render and claim expertise from something you have no iota of a clue. Just for your information I bought the system and found it viable and working. I pity you guys a bunch of boxed confused masters of glib. I am not surprise
to find both of you doing the same hopelessly bewildered, unaware and ignorant "opinions" in the same website forum 5-10 years from now. "Experts"? What a shame! If you don't know anything about something and can't afford to have it or find it out, then just shut up!
"There are more things in heaven and earth that are not dreamt of in your philosophy!" Shakespeare.

Linda Clair
Winning player!

My someone woke up in a snitt today. Looked at the site and the claims and Sonnys link should let you know why we are skeptical. ST or ZG any thoughts? And which one is it lindablair or lindaclair?

 

[ScottH]

To: SystemTrader and Zengrifter;

Your posted replies are both sooooo Sad and Pathetic! How can you be judgemental on somebodys work when you admitted that you haven't even read the website nor seen the second phase of the system? I bet SystemTrader's clueless observation was precisely his own sleazy and empty modus operandi of observation when confronted with a system that makes
sense. Are you guys just jealous? inspite of being "experts" you have nothing to show but just being internet blabermouths? Come on, "Get out of your unenlightened boxes! How can you tell something from nothing when both of you are ignoramuses of the strategies? You guys are nothing but bogus laughable and contemptuous dimwit "experts" who are quick to render and claim expertise from something you have no iota of a clue. Just for your information I bought the system and found it viable and working. I pity you guys a bunch of boxed confused masters of glib. I am not surprise
to find both of you doing the same hopelessly bewildered, unaware and ignorant "opinions" in the same website forum 5-10 years from now. "Experts"? What a shame! If you don't know anything about something and can't afford to have it or find it out, then just shut up!
"There are more things in heaven and earth that are not dreamt of in your philosophy!" Shakespeare.

Linda Clair
Winning player!

You would be wise to listen to what they have to say. You label yourself as a winning player, but if you continue playing systems I assure you that you wont be for long.

Like other system players you won't listen to me, but then again I don't care. I could take the time and look at the system and mathematically tell you why it doesn't work, but that is too much work to do since I know you wouldn't listen. The only way you will find out your error is to lose all your money. I hope it doesn't cost you too much to figure it out!

 

[mdlbj]

Started with 50 n a spanish 21 table, left with 700. I was freaked out. First time playing blackjack.

 

[zengrifter]

$50 into $5k+ zg

 

[mdlbj]

$50 into $5k+ zg

ZG, are you still on your state sponserd vacation or are you a free man now?

 

[BookerPA]

Hi, just registered with this site but have been visiting here for about a year. I'm not a counter but do use BS. Would like to share an experience that happened in May of 2006. Friends and I went to the Hilton in AC and after about an hour and a half I was plus 9K. I put 6K in my pocket and took another shot. At a $25
table, the max bet is 3K. I started out betting 1K and won sthe first three hands and jumped the bet up eventually to the max. Had two hands where I split 8's three accross and doubled down on each, two hands +36K. Won sixteen hands in a row, been playing over thirty years and never had or seen anything like that. Walked away with over 80K. The PB and a team were all over me because of my two friends standing behind me. Before we left, had to take a jab at them and said, "You guys make me laugh, were so old we can't even remember where we live, let alone count cards."

 

[ScottH]

Hi, just registered with this site but have been visiting here for about a year. I'm not a counter but do use BS. Would like to share an experience that happened in May of 2006. Friends and I went to the Hilton in AC and after about an hour and a half I was plus 9K. I put 6K in my pocket and took another shot. At a $25
table, the max bet is 3K. I started out betting 1K and won sthe first three hands and jumped the bet up eventually to the max. Had two hands where I split 8's three accross and doubled down on each, two hands +36K. Won sixteen hands in a row, been playing over thirty years and never had or seen anything like that. Walked away with over 80K. The PB and a team were all over me because of my two friends standing behind me. Before we left, had to take a jab at them and said, "You guys make me laugh, were so old we can't even remember where we live, let alone count cards."

They may have been conscerned you were counting, but they were probably trying to figure out if you were cheating somehow. As you know they don't appreciate good runs like that!

 

[toastblows]

put $300 down on a $50 2 deck in vegas and ran it to $1450 in 2 shuffles...by myself of course :laugh:

I do not recall counting anything but 10 valued cards on that one, i was drinking and it was 4am so i was basically a ploppy.....funny, thats a lot better than my actual counting sessions go...seems to be the norm amoungst counters, the ploppy betting sloppy wins big :sad:

 

[Frankie]

I turned 1600 into 27,000 not too long ago. Of course that was just after switching tables and dropping a quick 6000 at the previous table. Still it was a very nice run at my new table, in about one hour.

 

[toastblows]

I turned 1600 into 27,000 not too long ago. Of course that was just after switching tables and dropping a quick 6000 at the previous table. Still it was a very nice run at my new table, in about one hour.

was this a 100$ table? i have had a lot of memorable runs at $100s....something about them vs the ploppy $10 table.

 

[Kaiser]

Jesus. Here I am all excited because I'm back over the $1000 mark again with my bankroll, down from a high point of $1150. (started with $200 in early August)

I'll just go sit in the corner now and practice counting cards some more.

:laugh:

 

[moo321]

I turned $50 into a bankroll.