Which blackjak rule is better.

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eds27

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Hello. I've been looking at some online blackjack tables at globalplayer.com. I was wondering which one would offer the higher edge to the player (considerin card-counting, of course).
Please, let me know what your think.
Thanks in advance.

1) Atlantic City
#Decks: 6
Penetration: about 50%.
House Edge: 0.33%
Dealer stands on soft 17.
Double down: any first two cards.
Double down after split: yes.
Splits allowed: 4.
Late surrender: yes. (on dealer's 10 and A)
Insurance: yes.

2) Vegas Strip
#Decks: 4
Penetration: about 40%.
House Edge: 0.42%
Dealer stands on soft 17.
Double down: any first two cards.
Double down after split: no.
Splits allowed: 4.
Early surrender: yes. (If dealer has blackjack you lose entire beton dealer's 10 and A)
Insurance: no.

3) Baden-Baden
#Decks: 2
Penetration: about 33%.
House Edge: 0.44%
Dealer stands on soft 17.
Double down: 9, 10 or 11 only.
Double down after split: no.
Splits allowed: 2.
Late surrender: No.
6-cards hand = winner.


4) Spanish 21 Blackjack
# Decks: 6 (ten-spot cards are removed from the decks)
Penetration: about 50%
House Edge: 0.83%
Dealer Draws on soft 17.
Double down: any first two cards.
Double down after split: yes.
Splits allowed: 4.
Split aces a second time allowed.
Late surrender: yes.
Player wins 21 ties and Blackjacks.
 
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eds27

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globalplayer doesn't

globalplayer.com does NOT shuffle after every hand. I know it's really hard to believe since 99.99% of online casinos do.
They do have a penetration depending on the number of decks, rules, as I show above. Take a look at it if you like.

But anyway, even assuming they do and I'm taking about real life casinos where they shuffle the way I say above, which one of those examples would be the best rules for players to take advantage of?
 
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E-town-guy

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Sorry Eds I missed the fact that they don't shuffle after every hand. If I remember correctly the topic of counting at globalplayer came up on an earlier thread which you can search for. But to answer your question penetrations of 50% and worse aren't worth your time playing if you're trying to count. As a point of interest some of the blackjack games at intercasino don't shuffle after each hand either, I think they have about 25% pen.

In my opinion, and I think many of the other members would agree, you should be looking for 70-75% pen minimum. If we assume you are playing in a real casino with these games then we can assume the penetration would be better as well. So ignoring the penetration all the games you listed are relatively the same in terms of house edge other than the spanish 21 game, which I've never played so I can't really comment. The one odd thing I've never encountered before is a game which doesn't offer insurance since its such a sucker bet unless you're a counter.
 
KenSmith

KenSmith

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As you might guess, none of these games is considered good. I ran some sims on the first three, and ignored Spanish 21 mostly because I don't have time to set it up appropriately on the software.

The best choice of the three is the 4-deck Vegas Strip. I assumed a 1 to 10 spread. If you spread $5 to $50 in that game, you can make about $4.49 per 100 hands. With a bankroll of $10,000, your lifetime risk of ruin is under 5%. That's using this bet spread, which is close to optimal:
Bet $5 at 0 or negative counts.
Bet $15 at TC+1.
Bet $30 at TC+2.
Bet $50 at TC+3 or higher.

The Atlantic City game has a slightly higher win rate at $4.91 for a near optimal 1-10 spread, but higher variance and risk of ruin. (Over 10% RoR with $10K bank.)

Needless to say, these games look awful when compared to any decent land-based casino game. But, hey, online you take what you can get.

At least it gives you something to do between the tournament rounds at (Dead link: http://bh3.net/l.php/715) _Global Player_.
 
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E-town-guy

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It would be interesting to know what the min and max bets are. With a huge spread you might be able to double your profit.

Every online casino I've encountered will allow you to sit out of a hand if there are other players at the table. If you're playing alone you have no choice but to bet or leave and come back which usually triggers a reshuffle.
 
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