Wild Ace Coupon

TENNBEAR

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#1
On my last trip to Tunica, as always I tossed current casino mail offers into my suitcase so I can use the coupons. After I had got to my room at the Horseshoe, I found this wild Ace coupon in my awards booklet (harrahs). You simply play it at a shoe game ( at the Horseshoe or the Grand ) and bet up to 750.00 max, the coupon counts as a ace and the dealer deals you one card only, to make your initial two card hand. I found a empty table showed the coupon to the dealer who called in the pitt boss, the pitt boss read it and I placed 300.00 cash play on the table. The dealer hit me with a face giving me BJ and he promply paid me 450.00, I was excited for having won but could have kicked myself for not playing the full 750.00 max allowed. Has anyone else run across these coupons? I always use all the coupons I get but none were as good as this one.
 

EasyRhino

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#2
The only one I ever had was at the Longhorn on the Boulder Highway. I think the max bet was $10. Maybe $5.

But they're awesome coupons. You have roughly a 50% advantage when one of your cards is a guaranteed ace, which is why people go through so much effort for things like ace steering and sequencing. As far as I know that advantage is still true with a coupon... oh wait, it is:

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/beyondcouponsbjfo.pdf

Anyway, this advantage means that if you were using any sort of proportional betting with a free ace coupon, you're going to be putting a crapload of money on the table.
 

bj bob

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#4
TENNBEAR said:
On my last trip to Tunica, as always I tossed current casino mail offers into my suitcase so I can use the coupons. After I had got to my room at the Horseshoe, I found this wild Ace coupon in my awards booklet (harrahs). You simply play it at a shoe game ( at the Horseshoe or the Grand ) and bet up to 750.00 max, the coupon counts as a ace and the dealer deals you one card only, to make your initial two card hand. I found a empty table showed the coupon to the dealer who called in the pitt boss, the pitt boss read it and I placed 300.00 cash play on the table. The dealer hit me with a face giving me BJ and he promply paid me 450.00, I was excited for having won but could have kicked myself for not playing the full 750.00 max allowed. Has anyone else run across these coupons? I always use all the coupons I get but none were as good as this one.
Wonder what would happen if they dealt you an ace. Would they let you split?
 

Kasi

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#5
bj bob said:
Wonder what would happen if they dealt you an ace. Would they let you split?
I would assume they let u play out the hand as normal since he said the second card would constitute your first 2 cards.

Otherwise, I doubt if it's worth 50%.

But I'd go buy up a bunch of them lol.
 

TENNBEAR

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#6
bj bob said:
Wonder what would happen if they dealt you an ace. Would they let you split?
Yes I questioned the pit boss before I placed my bet, my concern is would it still pay 3-2 if I won. His reply was it plays the same as any dealt ace, if I had caught another ace would have been sweet, they let you resplit aces in Tunica.
 

Cardcounter

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#7
Wow that's a lot!

I have got an ace coupon before but it was only for a $25 max bet. If you get an ace coupon you always bet the maximum allowed by the coupon. I have never seen a $750 max bet ace coupon. I would think that you would have to be a real high roller to get such a valuable coupon. But by not betting the full $750 and putting only $300 on the table you literally gave the casino a $175 worth of expected value. I think that $300 was a real high bet for you but I still think that you should of pushed it. Could you have lived with your self if you bet the full $750 and lost?
 
#8
There is a casino in my area that offers one '1st card as an ace' per day - 6 days a week. (Up thru September)

The ace is saved on pushes, and blackjacks are paid 3-2. The max bet is $25.

Does this mean that I am expected to clear $75 a week mathematically? Better still, on the way home there is another casino that offers 2 $5 match plays per day, every day.

In exploiting these promotions, am I truly averaging just about $100 a week in a moments work!? :grin:
 
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TENNBEAR

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#9
Cardcounter said:
I have got an ace coupon before but it was only for a $25 max bet. If you get an ace coupon you always bet the maximum allowed by the coupon. I have never seen a $750 max bet ace coupon. I would think that you would have to be a real high roller to get such a valuable coupon. But by not betting the full $750 and putting only $300 on the table you literally gave the casino a $175 worth of expected value. I think that $300 was a real high bet for you but I still think that you should of pushed it. Could you have lived with your self if you bet the full $750 and lost?
You are correct, I am not a high roller, on the same perforated coupon card was my two free table 10.00 plays. I play green with a typical 1-5 spread on the double deck pitch games common in Miss. My logic of not placing the 750.00 max bet, was what it would do to my bankroll if I got a double down and lost, clearly a possibilty. Still not one of my better decisions, I should have went for it.
 

shadroch

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#10
Jumpfreak888 said:
There is a casino in my area that offers one '1st card as an ace' per day - 6 days a week. (Up thru September)

The ace is saved on pushes, and blackjacks are paid 3-2. The max bet is $25.

Does this mean that I am expected to clear $75 a week mathematically? Better still, on the way home there is another casino that offers 2 $5 match plays per day, every day.

In exploiting these promotions, am I truly averaging just about $100 a week in a moments work!? :grin:
That would be a great part-time job. Grab a partner and hit them regularly.
 

Kasi

Well-Known Member
#11
Jumpfreak888 said:
There is a casino in my area that offers one '1st card as an ace' per day - 6 days a week. (Up thru September)

The ace is saved on pushes, and blackjacks are paid 3-2. The max bet is $25.

Does this mean that I am expected to clear $75 a week mathematically? /QUOTE]

Let us know if it lasts thru Sep :)
 
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