Wtf is kj doing back here???

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aslan

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creeping panther said:
Great post Bojack, and you are right. I am embarrased that I have spent so much time on this board, and like you, my postings will become a rare thing if at all. I have lost so much respect for so many people on this site.

One thing I am not sorry about is the way I questioned ## from the beginning, the falsehoods I caught him in and sensed he was engaged in, the unease I felt about him. I called him out, challenged him, and caught alot of grief from many posters here for doing so, even a banning from the mods for being to rough on ##, but in the end I was right, and I was justified, and how ## must have been squirming at those times, slowly being put in a corner by CP that he badly wanted to slip out of again and again. But now we know the disturbing, ugly, truth, so very disturbing that so many still cannot see it, will not accept it, even though it is starring them right in their face, this I find more disturbing than what ## perpetrated.

For those of you that have expressed your strong disgust for ##'s deceptions, in posts and PM's, you have nothing to be ashamed of, you have shown guts and a righteous indignation, be proud. To the others, shame on you.

CP
IF all you have to be proud of is catching another fellow human being in an embarrassing situation, then you need to examine yourself. Your self-righteous behavior is pathetic. I only hope that some embarrassment that you have committed or will commit in your lifetime [ and everyone does], does not get shouted all over the Internet to your utter mortification. In fact, your present behavior may be just that. What ## did, rises to the level of a prank, not even wrongdoing in the moral sense IMO. What you have done in response shows hatred for anyone who does not play by your rules, and betrays the fact that the big thing here is that your pride was caught and squeezed in the process. You were duped and you can't take it.

Own up, Creeping Panther, or continue slinking around the Forum looking for some new victim upon whom to pounce. Turn your stealthiness toward good pursuits like beating the casinos and away from trivial and demeaning pursuits like pummeling your fellow board member.

Everyone wants to feel they are better than some one else. Some whites hate blacks, some Muslims hate Jews, some Indians hate whites, some educated people hate illiterate people, some conservative people hate liberal people, some thin people hate fat people, some religious people hate atheists, some workers hate capitalists, and vice versa to all the above. But it's all rooted in a desire to feel oneself better than others, and the fact is, no one is better than another. If you do anything in your lifetime, memorize this and teach it to your kids: There, but for the grace of God, go I.

All of the above applies equally to myself. Looking back at my life, I consider myself a poor example of a human being. In the most secret thoughts and actions of our lives most of us have probably failed miserably. Falling short of the mark is the human condition and it is common to all of us. Just as soon as we begin to think we are better than someone else, we are preparing ourselves for a revelation of how far we ourselves miss the mark.

If I could dedicate the rest of my life to helping my fellow man, it would not make up for wrongs I have done. That's not the point. The point is, to change direction and make the rest of one's life something of honor, decency and integrity. We are not God's avenging angels sent to destroy the wicked. We're just ordinary human beings who hopefully will learn the lesson that a primary charge in this life is to love our neighbor, even the ones who in our minds make fools of us.
 
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aslan said:
But it's all rooted in a desire to feel oneself better than others, and the fact is, no one is better than another. If you do anything in your lifetime, memorize this and teach it to your kids:
We all wipe our ass the same.
 

Elhombre

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I totally agree

Jack_Black said:
High quality posts my A$$!!!! are you high or just plain stupid? all he does is just whine about himself and his woes on public boards. he only knows how to count cards, and he either refuses to learn other methods because he's too dumb or too lazy. he wastes everyone's time with his pathetic drama stints, and he only knows how to answer asinine and simple AP questions. His followers are mostly bright eyed beginner card counters who think they can one day be like him. a whiny grinder/counter who refuses to better himself. is that what you aspire to become?
And the most worse, he led newbies think to count 6-8 deckers
for a living is easy over many years, bull....:whip:

And Mr. Lee was right.

Eh.
 
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kewljason

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Elhombre said:
And the most worse, he led newbies to play 6-8 deckers
easy for a living over many years, bull....:whip:

And Mr. Lee was right.

Eh.
"I led newbies to play 6-8 deck game??" What am I the Pied Piper? :confused:

I used to almost exclusively play 8 deck games when I lived back east. It is a struggle. I moved away from that in order to play better 6 deck and double deck games. I don't think I ever encouraged anyone to play 8 deck games.

Mr. Lee WAS right! Not that it matters, but I believe his quote was "that he found me to be credible". You have misrepresented Mr Lee several times now. Please ask him to come on and refresh your memory, or find a transcript of The "KIM LEE chat session". I know what he thinks, because I communicate with him. :rolleyes:

This thread has now turned from "WTF is KJ doing back" with people expressing feelings about the recent incident to a handful of people that have disliked me and fought me for years, continuing their attacks. CP who just admitted such in his post, El hombre who was banned previously for attacks on me and Jack black who also stated he never liked me.

I let people have their say about hurt feelings and being angry concerning this last incident, because I hurt some people and felt I deserved it and they should be able to express that, but I am not going to just sit quietly while people attack because they never liked me. This is just childish schoolyard, "I don't like him" bulls**t! Grow up!
 
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Sucker

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aslan said:
What ## did, rises to the level of a prank
It was NOT a prank, it was a HOAX. There is a big difference.

aslan said:
not even wrongdoing in the moral sense IMO.
The hoax in question absolutely WAS morally wrong - everyone who posts an opinion on this site is at least an AMATEUR journalist. That's one of the beauties of the internet. One of the biggest no-nos that a journalist can do is to perpetuate a hoax on the public. Every time a journalistic hoax gets uncovered, the reporter in question loses ALL credibility and is from that point onward considered by his peers to be a pariah.

I've searched KJ's posts for any signs of contriteness (not that it would change anything anyway). The closest I've seen, is his statement that he's sorry - sorry that some of us misunderstood! So he got robbed - that's an excuse to fake his own death? Get REAL! We all have problems of our own; and oftentimes OUR problems involve someone close to us who really DO die, but do we all use our problems as an excuse for stupid acts? I think not! I don't think the guy even has a clue that what he did was WRONG!

Shame on KJ! And shame on Ken or whoever allowed him back in here. I certainly can understand why many have stated that they've lost their desire to participate as much any more. And shame on anyone who thinks that the guy who EXPOSED him somehow did something WRONG! IMO, the credibility of this web site died when they decided to let the hoaxter back in. It's no longer a BJ meeting place, it's a circus.
 

yesiamred

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KenSmith said:
The community of APs is regrettably dysfunctional. Apparently I can't win here.
Ken, you tried your best and people will think what they will despite the actions of others. Thank you for such a great forum and such valuable information on both your sites. You rock!
 

Coyote

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KenSmith said:
The community of APs is regrettably dysfunctional. Apparently I can't win here.
This is what happens when you permit open dialouge married with annonymity. I say it is not a bad thing! If we all are truely APs, then we will all learn form this incident. I have learned not to be so trusting, have a healthy skepticism (thanks Flash), and to be more forgiving.

I felt so alone as I began my card counting...Then...I found blackjackinfo.com! Three years later, I was invited to the BASH by CP and my part time AP career really took off! Ken, if not for your site, many of us would still be handing our money over the the casions.

Thank you Ken!

Coyote
 

psyduck

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Sucker said:
Shame on KJ! And shame on Ken or whoever allowed him back in here. I certainly can understand why many have stated that they've lost their desire to participate as much any more. And shame on anyone who thinks that the guy who EXPOSED him somehow did something WRONG! IMO, the credibility of this web site died when they decided to let the hoaxter back in. It's no longer a BJ meeting place, it's a circus.
Sucker,

I for one come here trying to learn more about BJ. I read posts and decide for myself if the information makes sense. I have never met anyone here, so I can only judge people by their posts. For example, you claim you have been playing BJ for a living for years. Do I believe it just because you said so? Not completely because I have no way to confirm it. I never met you and do not know what kind of person you are and what you have done in your life, good or bad. It does not matter. As long as your posts make sense, I will value them and continue to read them. I personally don't understand why some people let this recent incident affect their discussion of BJ.

He faked his death for his own reason. Does this mean all his posts are lies? I don't think so. When in trouble, people react differently because everyone is different. I don't know and don't care if anyone here has credibility in his personal life because I simply don't know the person. I am here for BJ.

Regardless of how bad some of us feel the incident is, as long as the man did it in honest hope to protect himself, I don't see the point of continued anger toward him. It is his life and his right. Time to turn the page and move on.

Thank you for reading.
 
#54
KenSmith said:
The community of APs is regrettably dysfunctional. Apparently I can't win here.
Ken you do a great job and I think you did the right thing. You banned KJ because that was apparently what he wanted. You let him back when he convinced you otherwise. Everyone makes mistakes and we all need forgiveness. We are all APs here. There is no profit in holding a grudge, only pain and misery. Everyone should move on to more profitable pursuits that would make you happy not miserable.
 

aslan

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KenSmith said:
The community of APs is regrettably dysfunctional. Apparently I can't win here.
:laugh: Just like a "real" family. Anyone ever see a real life family that was not dysfunctional? What's it like being Father to 5,647 unruly children? :laugh: :cry: :mad: :cry: :joker: j/k Keep up the good work.
 
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WRX

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KenSmith said:
The community of APs is regrettably dysfunctional.
LOL! Just one big happy dysfunctional family. Anyone who's worked with other APs knows what a bunch of weirdos there are in this business. What normal person would want to do it? He'd probably much prefer to get a real job or something.
 
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