Your method of learning indicies?
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Deathclutch
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I have this great Iphone app that does flashcards. You take tests with them and it keeps track of which ones you miss most often and puts them in the tests more often. Since I'm in the process of learning a ton of indices for Hi Opt II, this has been an amazing help.ycming said:
StandardDeviant
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cvbjycming said:
I made flashcards by cutting index cards in half, smaller is easier to carry around where ever I went.
One set had all the hand types with indices
One set (2 cards) had the optimum betting schedule based on pen
One set, which at the beginning I thought was the easiest to learn from, had a full line from the index chart on each card. For example:
9 vs 2 3 4 5 6 7
:::: 1 0 -2 -3 d 5
and just remember the string (like a phone number, before we had speed dial) 9 is 1,0,-2,-3,d,5
Some lines only have a couple of indices so I made individual flash cards for those.
I still use them when CVBJ is not available.
BJC
One set had all the hand types with indices
One set (2 cards) had the optimum betting schedule based on pen
One set, which at the beginning I thought was the easiest to learn from, had a full line from the index chart on each card. For example:
9 vs 2 3 4 5 6 7
:::: 1 0 -2 -3 d 5
and just remember the string (like a phone number, before we had speed dial) 9 is 1,0,-2,-3,d,5
Some lines only have a couple of indices so I made individual flash cards for those.
I still use them when CVBJ is not available.
BJC
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+1 on the flashcards (probably the only time in my entire life i ever used these things).bjcount said:
however, i would recomend one index per card. if you do as bjc suggests you may memorize a whole string instead of individual numbers and when your brain has to process what the third index in that string is, it will first have to think of the first two before getting to the third one. wastes valuable milliseconds! putting one per flashcard allows you to truly randomize and individualize each index.
I created a BS chart in MS Excel with the index written in.ycming said:
Eg in the 8v6 field it would say D @ 3+
I then created a copy of the chart where i would enter all the data from memory. In a third copy of the chart i created some formulae where xls would instantly highlight the entries that I got wrong (by comparing my entry in the second chart with the model answer in the first chart) and then give me a percentage score! Then I would delete all the entries in the second chart and re-do the exercise.
This approach worked very well for me. If you spend a lot of time in one go then you should be able to learn the index plays fairly quickly.
Matt
yesiamred
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In addition to the software(s) and flashcards I printed off numerous pages of the charts with only the dealer information so I would have to fill-in-the blanks. A year later I still practice several times a week...with well over 200 indices to memorize I found that works great.
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Once you have bs down, it's easier. Something that's helpful is to think ok 12 v 3 I hit but 12 v 4 I stand. If the count is bad, then since 12 v 4 is the first time where we stand, we adjust that to where we hit.
On the flip side. Something like 9 vs 3 where we double but stand on 9 vs 2. Now if the count goes positive we double 9 vs 2. Little tricks like that.
On the flip side. Something like 9 vs 3 where we double but stand on 9 vs 2. Now if the count goes positive we double 9 vs 2. Little tricks like that.
Automatic Monkey
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Here's a method if you play with a simulator: print out your index sheet and cheat with it as you play. Then put the index sheet in an inconvenient place, like in an envelope or on another table so that it becomes a hassle to get it and look at it, but do it anyway. Your desire to stop fetching and unfolding and folding the index sheet will help you remember them, almost like a mild aversion training.
Keep in wallet, create stories
I like to keep them in my wallet and refresh areas of the indices in the head when I need to.
I was fooling around with putting some lines on the simple cell phone too. If you had a blackberry you could hold alot of data easy but best not to use near the table.
I tend to focus on certain key numbers then incorporate the surrounding numbers. I think you could create number stories in your head if you wanted to; I think they call them mnemonic devices.
Take A8 soft doubling from my specif indices reading hebrew style right to left 3,3,4,7,11 a good series to know. You create a story about a guy that just played some eight ball, left and walked down 6th street and saw a tree (3) on 5th street he saw a tree (3), when he came to fourth street he saw 4 squares (people perhaps) on all four corners of the street, on third street he was in heaven (7) sweet looking babes (insert your preference) looking for a big spender, he finally makes it home to 2nd street and sees a dozen eggs with one broken (11).
Use your imagination and go over the story bringing it to life in your mind and it will become second nature. This is how I memorized codes for tests in the past.
Positive indices and those triggering doubles or splits are more important.
I like to keep them in my wallet and refresh areas of the indices in the head when I need to.
I was fooling around with putting some lines on the simple cell phone too. If you had a blackberry you could hold alot of data easy but best not to use near the table.
I tend to focus on certain key numbers then incorporate the surrounding numbers. I think you could create number stories in your head if you wanted to; I think they call them mnemonic devices.
Take A8 soft doubling from my specif indices reading hebrew style right to left 3,3,4,7,11 a good series to know. You create a story about a guy that just played some eight ball, left and walked down 6th street and saw a tree (3) on 5th street he saw a tree (3), when he came to fourth street he saw 4 squares (people perhaps) on all four corners of the street, on third street he was in heaven (7) sweet looking babes (insert your preference) looking for a big spender, he finally makes it home to 2nd street and sees a dozen eggs with one broken (11).
Use your imagination and go over the story bringing it to life in your mind and it will become second nature. This is how I memorized codes for tests in the past.
Positive indices and those triggering doubles or splits are more important.
2nd2noCasino
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I have always found that for myself the more I write things the better I can remember them so I just write all the indices over and over again until I didn't need to look at the reference paper or book anymore a little tedious but it worked for me the Iphone app is cool too though.
StandardDeviant
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I was thinking about this the other day. I could modify a BS chart in subtle ways to include information about the indices (without actually typing them on the chart). Then I could put the chart right on the table while I play. The PB would think I'm a rookie referring to the chart, and I could have most of the indices sitting right in front of me in plain sight). Could be a great cover play.politcat said:edit the local BS engine in ms paint
I use a similar technique when I train new players. When learning indices I have them learn only a few at a time. First I would have them memorize just TC 1 thru 2 indices. I would give them blank charts to fill in. Once they have memorized what they needed to and could fill out a blank chart flawlessly, they would move on to the next number or numbers depending how many plays it consisted of. Its like being taught your times tables as a kid. You don't learn them all at once, you learn them sets at a time until you know them all. Once you know them thoroughly, it is very hard to forget them.2nd2noCasino said:
QFIT
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This is how REKO works. Only is is easy to disguise the chart since all indexes are the same See the pages starting at www.qfit.com/book/ModernBlackjackPage74.htm.StandardDeviant said: